Super Duper Branko Strupar

That was nice of them

I saw you do it. Absolute pervert.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

Married in to Hexham aristocracy and has a couple of properties up here, and a massive Toon fan apparently. This is ON. You still never responded to my genuine attempt to engage in a conversation Penn[/member] Why do you think that the PL never rejected the takeover ? Yep he has skirted my attempts several times now. How are we being played in ways that we cannot comprehend. Please elaborate? He's a loner with nothing else to do. Ignore him.

Just seen Haris Vuckic is a free agent. He was meant to be at Zaragoza now after his contract at Twente ran out and he was after more dollar. Wonder what happened.

"We're playing here to try and be a real contender for the Championship" :'(

That's a stupid comment! If you want to simplify what I'm saying, then yes that's what I meant.

I'm sure you're aware that's an asinine viewpoint.

Just ignore him. He does live feeds and bitty transfer updates. He also blatantly writes his own bios. No one gives a fuck what he says, you shouldn't either. He'll end up working in Cafe Nero or somewhere soon enough. His writing sure isnt in demand.

Yep. And AS's "they made it impossible". They knew they weren't going to satisfy everything. I think so. They've been tipped off by the top and, in the whole scheme of things, Masters is a minion compared to Boris et al who have far more to gain/lose with their relationship with KSA/The Reubens etc. This will sound ridiculous but I'm not even 100% sure Staveley would've been fully in the picture with any discussion between PIF and the UK Government. For sure, the UK Government will have to swing something PIF's/KSA's way as an apology for this. 100%. Yep and Yep (regarding post below to IP). Until the MENA rights end, and/or something is set as a precedent elsewhere determining PIF and SA are independent enough to not tar PIF with SA's actions (not going to happen imo), it just can't happen. Think you're bang on about PLs potential response too. "Sorry, this is private" Despite it being their process and "their decision", at this level, it's not.

Yep. And AS's "they made it impossible". They knew they weren't going to satisfy everything.

That's probably very likely.

Fucking good.

Oh aye, they're guilty of that, imo. That ship's sailed, though. Written in to multi million pound contracts now. Courts would sign that shit off. I imagine if Qatar are found guilty it'd be a fucking relief for them. Can probably right a load of stuff off. Dunno. Not a legal person. Would teach them not to be so fucking naive when they're hawking their exploitation of the average PL football fan for absurd amounts of money whilst contributing fuck all.

I honestly think the latter. Would you want to be the one to set the precedent and say PIF and SA are too closely linked? (Not you personally that's absurd but you know what I mean). That has huge ramifications. So yeah, bottled it I suppose. I imagine they're a bit pissed off, though. Rock and a hard place. I dont think she's lying, personally. I think she believes PIF pass.

Not read that. No idea. Kinda supports the logic, though. If they think they're not independent, they're asking the person who they believe to be in charge to put themselves forward. Actually I think that strengthens my beliefs, personally.

Where's that?

Of course it would be an admission of guilt And they're guilty. Admitting it and compensating it goes some way to rectifying it. Along with agreeing to comply with what they're legally binded by. I'm obviously guessing, and I'm not exactly going to try and claim what I'm thinking is true with regard to the detail. I just really dont get the fury towards the PL. Its an incredibly sensitive political situation. I think it's far more probable that the PL didnt reject it because they were giving them the opportunity to rectify it. And it's a huge decision for the PL to be the ones to have to make to say PIF and SA are more closely tied than they'd have you believe. I very much doubt they wanted to be the people who had to make that decision. I think it's telling no one of any real authority has said anything about it, mind. Maybe the PL didnt really want to say outright No, you're effectively the state, or Yes, come on board we'll defend PIF against all the claimants against SA. That's annoying. Kinda understandable, though. All of that goes waaaay beyond football.

Sensible post but one key flaw to your reasoning, they don’t have the confidence to stand by their determination, because if they did they would have rejected it. I'd be getting in to uneducated guesses to explain it but maybe if SA agreed to legally broadcast BeIn for the agreed contract period in MENA, compensated whoever needed compensated for the previous however many years of piracy and shut everything down and fell in line with what is currently law, they'd potentially have allowed it. Because then the ties to the state wouldn't also come with the crimes. Saudis said nah, pulled out. Saudi Arabia have stolen from the PL. We all know it.

This is all speculation unless you know this as a fact? The thing that pisses me off and I'm sure the most is the way the takeover has being dealth with or not dealth with in fact. Do you honestly think if this was one of the top 6 would be different? It's the same shit watching games last number of years with certain teams getting ridiculous decisions in games. The whole organisation stinks and this is the last straw for me. I don't know it's fact, not many people would. Nothing's been released. There is a lot of evidence though and it's a decent educated guess, imo. It also makes sense. And yes [sigh], it would be the same. The PL can't allow people who have stolen their property and cost an awful lot of stakeholders a lot of money to be involved int the PL. I can't explain the Sheff Utd situation as I know fuck all about their set up but it's quite clearly different.

I think that Athletic article nailed it like and explains the reasons why without a huge shift this isn't likely to happen with Saudi owners. I find it hard to see the fury shown towards the PL. Frustration, fine. But there's a lot of evidence that points towards what the PLs demands were and it's kinda fair enough. The piracy, the falsifying of statements from official bodies, the compensation owed to BeIn/Qatar or whoever because of the blatant thievery. And seemingly opportunity was given to try and rectify these issues by extending it kinda indefinitely. Until the Saudi's pulled out because they weren't willing to comply with what is, unfortunately, law. The PL have effectively said that PIF and the state aren't suitably independent, and therefore the states crimes are attributable to PIF. If they have the confidence they seemingly do to stand behind that determination, then that's quite telling, imo. That's the only argument here I think. And none of us are knowledgeable enough to know if the determination is right or not. That's not the say that Qatar don't have far too much influence over the PL in that region. The fact they control all they do is absurd. And they're quite clearly embedded in world football and not just the PL. Unfortunately, their influence is enshrined in law.

Classy guy Arteta, like.

What the fuck is this?

I so want Rocker to be the legit ITK... It'd be the best thing for this forum

I cant agree with the 'any excuse not to approve it' vomit after they've been asked to clarify the management structure for the O&D test, like. It's the point of the fucking test. Sounds to me like a lot of back and forth until they're happy with the answers. There's obviously a chance it gets to a point where the buyers' answers are not satisfactory, and they'd have to reject it, but that reads a lot more like they're being given the opportunity to ensure everything is in order so the PL can accept it. It's like when a teacher says "I cant tell you the right answer, but I can tell you it's not that..." and then you go back and change things until they accept it.