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Just started rewatching the game. At the kick-off, I heard this from Sam Matterface: “Glenn Hoddle was part of the squad that won Tottenham’s only European trophy” Genuinely had to rewind it twice to see if I heard it correctly. Jesus Christ. What a useless idiot he is.

Oh thank goodness for that. I must have misread the BBC text. They said something like Kinsky was out etc and my ongoing injury PTSD probably kicked in

New keeper injured now so back to our fourth choice keeper. BBC says 14 senior players injured now. It’s just fucking stupid. Edit: Just saw Forster’s on the bench so presumably he’s fourth choice now.

Solanke injured now. At the beginning of the season I expected our first team to be Vicario, Porro, Romero, VDV, Udogie, Bentancur, Bissouma, Kulu/Maddison, Son, Solanke, Johnson. Currently eight of those players are out, and four of their back-ups are out. It’s ludicrous. One other backup (Richarlison) is presumably going to have to play today for his first Premier League start of the season, so he’ll be injured by half time. It’s a washout. We just need to get enough points to stay up and maybe fluke something in the cups. The only question is how much is bad luck and how much is Ange’s training/tactics, because clearly both are involved to a certain degree. The difficulty is that you can’t judge anyone fully under these circumstances. You can make an educated guess, but that’s it.

About time everybody adopted Millwall’s nickname for them - the Stripey Nigels.

Just to be clear, I mean whether or not Havertz or even Arsenal are involved.

I guess also, for all its failings, because there was no VAR.

Was justice done? Did Havertz get booked for diving?

I’m on the bus following it by text and haven’t seen anything but even then I can tell you that this whole incident supports my contention that on these occasions you should be allowed to give Havertz a running kick in the balls.

That Watford goal is mint as fuck. What a shot.

Yup.

you have no idea. Austin and Whiteman have barely played a proper game in their careers. There’s a reason Forster was our backup.

He’s been ill too apparently. We’re not playing those who will put the yards in, we’re playing the ones who are able to play . Not much choice. The bench is hilarious.

I think he is mistaken actually - he’s missed out Ben Davies. That would be 14 missing.

I don’t think you’ve met a lot of Spurs fans or spent much time on Spurscommunity. No-one has any illusions about them. We were saying they’d fucked up by not getting a proper second keeper in back in September.

Forster is our third keeper. We just don’t have a second keeper . Our other keepers are Austin and Whiteman who are there to throw balls at Vicario and Forster in training and DJ online. Outside Forster our best keepers are actually Keeley (a kid on loan at Orient) and Gunter (a kid in the U-21s).

Kudus is still a thing tbf.

I’ve kind of checked out of football until February and didn’t realize Arsenal were at home. Going down the escalators at Kings Cross it sounded like “Ilchester, lalala” and I couldn’t work out what division Ilchester were in and how the fuck they had so many fans.

Got an old friend who’s a Newcastle fan and it used to wind him up that I was always the “Voice of Reason”. Again, I’ll say what I’ve said all season about Son - if he gets enough rest he’s still got it, just obviously he’s older and it’ll be in shorter bursts. He’s still had a handful of brilliant games this season. The plan was to rotate him with Odobert, Moore, Werner and Richarlison on the left. Odobert and Richarlison have barely played due to injury, Moore has been out with a virus for months, and Werner has had injuries too…but is also just Werner. If his legs were truly gone he wouldn’t have had those great games at all. Plenty of Spurs fans think he’s gone, but they tend to be the reactionary ones I think.

Don’t think so yet unless he’s “lost the dressing room”. I’ll say the same thing I’ve said all along, we’ll be able to make the judgements next season after another proper transfer window. At this point you could still argue that the squad isn’t strong enough all round to mount a proper challenge in all competitions. He wants them to play a particular way and a few players are either not capable, young and developing or just exhausted. The bigger question is whether playing that way is sustainable or is inevitably going to result in the sort of injury list that precludes a successful season. I’m still in the “benefit of the doubt” stage. Obviously if we fundamentally changed the way we played it might yield different results but I think you can still call us a club in transition. If we’re seeing the same issues next year then I think you can reasonably say “mate, it’s not going to work”. I mean, today’s defence was a (in truth) #3 keeper, a player making his second PL start, a couple of young defenders (one of whom is plainly worn out) and a teenage CM. The excuses are there. We’re still capable of beating anyone in a given game. It’s just obviously frustrating to keep losing games in the same manner week in and week out, and easy to lose sight of the bigger picture, which I still think is positive.

We had a couple of good chances, they had a couple of great saves. Won the xG, for what it’s worth. Should probably have been 1-1. It’s just so predictable though. We all knew this was how today was going to go.

I do get a bit frustrated with things like the BBC Text saying it was a “brilliant display” from Forest. Naah, they just did what you’re supposed to do against us - let us have the ball, be organized at the back, hit us on the break. Factor in some generous reffing and it’s just every game against us at the moment. Not brilliant, just effective.

Wow.

That or if you did try to break Rodri or someone else would just foul you and get Diplomatic Immunity.