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Oops.

Kinda want Burnley to get a goal now to set up a cracking finish. Good game.

So glad they didn’t give that handball too.

Screamer.

Can’t make my mind up about Forest. Unsure what their identity is - they’ve got a lot of big, strong players who all kinda do the same thing. Gibbs-White is a class act though.

Did not realize that Koleosho has already represented Canada, the US and Italy, at various levels.

Christ there’s so much football available now. When did Sky start showing the Northern Irish league too?

The point is that one team was breaking, and the other team make a deliberate foul to stop it. That’s a bad thing, and sometimes considered a booking offence on its own. Then the first team tries to play on quickly - which is their right - and the same player stops them from doing so by doing a thing that you’re not allowed to do because he wanted to get an unfair advantage. You’re right, people who deliberately stop people from taking a quick free kick rarely get booked. Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be. And like I say, he probably got booked because he already deliberately fouled the guy, then exacerbated it by blocking the quick free kick.

Yeah, and you’re supposed to be booked for it . It’s not time-wasting, it’s cheating to stop the oppo getting an advantage. Like I say, he’d just deliberately fouled a bloke to stop them breaking. If he’d only done one or the other he might have got a talking-to. As he did both I reckon it’s a legit booking.

Game opening up nicely now.

Foster is such a weird player. Looks like he’s running through treacle, and isn’t totally sure what he’s supposed to be doing at any given point.

Watch it again. He deliberately steps across to stop the quick free kick. Ref might just have given him a talking to had he not made the cynical foul in the first place.

Been coming. What happened to Forest? Like they relaxed and thought it was easy.

Oh wait. It was Don Goodman, was it? Commentates like he played football, lumbering about like an oaf.

Player makes a foul to stop a break, then steps across to deliberately stop them from taking a quick free kick. Ref books him. Commentator “refs have got to know the game better, how can he be expected to get 10 yards back?” This viewer “commentators have got to know the game better, how can they be so stridently wrong?” Do feel for refs at times. Burnley really getting back into this. They looked an absolute mess first 20-25 mins.

Loved that goal.

Switched back to MOTD. Eriksen looks gassed tbh. @Froggy how did Regi do at LB? Seemed decent enough to me.

Jesus, the boos when Martial replaced Hojlund

It’s funny, I’ve gone from being so disengaged from football to watching a ton now I’m back in the UK. Means that there’s a number of players I’m watching properly for the first time, and able to make proper judgments. And fuck me, Bruno Fernandes is a whiny little shit.

And why are they obsessed with timewasting, Paul? I do feel a bit sorry for him because it’s getting harder and harder for clubs to make the step up…but the refs/FA rightly decided that timewasting was bullshit and are trying to do something about it. So if it’s an absolutely integral part of your gameplan then yeah, that will be annoying.

Absolutely pissing it down in the Welsh derby . My early memories of camping in South Wales are of teeming rain so this is all very familiar.

Persistent and blatant time-wasting. Their goalkeeper could have been sent off multiple times for it, and was saved by the time-honoured rule of once you’ve been booked you can pretty much do whatever you want as the ref will feel he can’t send a goalkeeper off “just for timewasting”. Enormous chutzpah for Heckingbottom to say what he did about it afterwards. The changes were brought in for precisely this situation. We can discuss the fact that this will once again favour the wealthier sides - because it will in more than one way - but it’s designed to minimize and punish time wasting and it ultimately managed to achieve one of those goals.

Yeah it goes back to what Souness said - he needs to take the handbrake off. I wonder if part of the reason he hasn’t is because he’s never really had a top class back five that he had full faith in. Ahead of them he has a million options, but he might always have felt his defence needed more help from the midfield than was healthy. I would like to think there are better options at the back, but Chilwell was disappointing the other night and at the top level I think Dunk gets exposed. Edit: What Jaqen said, basically.

I guess I can sort of see this. I’ve been disillusioned with football for years and it helped considerably with stepping away when Spurs had dislikeable people like Conte and Mourinho (who I do actually kind of have a soft spot for tbf) in charge. I don’t entirely get it though. It wasn’t in large part because of the manager, it was because of a million other things about modern football. The manager was the icing on the cake. I find Southgate annoying, but I’m English, I’m an England fan and I really enjoyed the game. To me, there are so many reasons to enjoy being an England fan and this team in particular. To throw that all away in large part because Southgate is a hypocrite seems peculiar. Not a dig for the sake of it, I’m genuinely interested. Also wondering who the other hypocrites are.