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The only player I can think of at the moment who is a pure goalscorer and plays for a top side is Hernandez. He's better than Defoe though. He has forged functioning partnerships with the players he's been upfront with at Man Utd and is generally just more intelligent with most aspects of the game - despite having the touch of a rapist and not much else to his game outside of the box.

Agree with all of this. I know it is becoming the standard point of reference for the forum but we consistently look much better when we switch to the 4-3-3. We instantly match or outnumber the opposition in midfield for a start.

Jesus. Thought you were a batter poster than that pile of shite. Oh get over yourself. You've been responding with sarcastic one liners the whole time too. 'Would hate to have a goal threat in my side like' 'He's actually scored nearly 200 career goals. Means he's good.' Point a: both sarcastic and completely ignorant of the point trying to be made Point b: A simplistic argument that again ignores the entire point of the argument. If my daft and not-completely-serious post offended you, then you should reassess the above comments. Defoe is an extremely limited player who will score goals. It doesn't make him a great player or one anybody has to rate because of it. I think he's 'shit' because he is extremely selfish, breaks down numerous attacks through his selfishness and poor decision making/intelligence, is extremely difficult to competently fit into a functioning side both as a lone striker and when paired with somebody who doesn't suit his game. I generally just think he's crap and that no side who ever wants to achieve anything would ever bother to play him. His 'smack the ball with the same technique every time he gets it' routine would be a useful attribute for a shit or at least mid-table side, admittedly. Maybe at a stretch a wildcard option from the bench for a bigger side. This is my opinion and I won't change it. No matter how many goals Defoe scores this season and hilarious comments occur when he does. Because as long as he is playing every week for Spurs then they have absolutely zero chance of getting into the Champions League. His overall game and ability level will see to that.

I basically said that the other day Beren, fwiw.

Exactly Ian.

The argument of having a 'goal threat' in the side means it matters little even if they are a terrible footballers is ridiculously simplistic. The above is an impossible and exaggerated example.

Nolan Nolan Nolan Nolan Defoe Defoe What a front 6 that would be. Guarenteed goal threat and thus 10 goals a game.

Good point joeyt

That cross he ballooned into row z was classic.

The highlights seemed to just be Arsenal missing chances.

Yeah I was joking.

He scored a goal. He didn't have an amazing game. I still don't rate him. Nothing to admit.

Sunderland look good.

There were 4 or 5 hilariously typical Defoe moments. He's a pile of shite.

These two look bad even on highlights

First West Ham highlight a long ball on 34 minutes.

Liverpool gave Fulham that lad for free when they signed Konchesky

Green is abysmal. So shite.

QPR are shite

They are very likely better than the Stevenage team we lost to, that is my line of thinking. Exactly

It's mental that he wasn't on the bench in the first place like.

Improved in the 2nd half when we went from 4-4-2 to 4-3-3

Don't really feel too comfortable playing any of these teams suggested. They did finish 4th in the Greek league. They can't be completely rubbish.

Short corners ftw

GOAT