Frazzle

Last season we had no wide men apparently, expect Duff and Jonas then.

Lets win by four or five shut this stupid ****ing woman up.

The 5live commentators sound chuffed we're gettin beat, already slaggin off Carroll.

Sounded ****ing shit anyway, same rubbish sitting back and taking our time, up the tempo ffs.

The Greek?

The woman who brought in the tea should leave the commentary room now!

Think he's called Rafa Benitez.

To be honest any football fan claiming Newcastle fans are not loyal aren't worth listening to. You normally get some lazy journalist trotting out the low 1980s crowds cliche even these days though. Despite crowds nationwide being rubbish. In which case they're f***ing clueless and not worth the time of day. No point biting really. True, but it is nice to know we are proving them wrong...yet again.

Clearly a British thing you don't understand then. It's something to be proud of, no? I think it's great that we have such high attendances, but I don't see the need to show it off? I promise you that every-day fans of other clubs don't give a f*** what our attendances are. It seems like some weird sense of false-reality that we're holding onto by spouting off how large our attendances are, none of it really matters because unfortunately the people in attendance are watching Championship football and Premiership football. I think other fans do care how big are attendances are though, you can already see then sharpening their knives at the end of the season, like Haris said. They had a go last season because our average was 48k and not 52k a week!

To be honest any football fan claiming Newcastle fans are not loyal aren't worth listening to. You normally get some lazy journalist trotting out the low 1980s crowds cliche even these days though. Despite crowds nationwide being rubbish.

Not to mention the fact that its a kick in the teeth of of the media/other fans/mackem who say we aren't loyal when in fact we are.

Clearly a British thing you don't understand then. It's something to be proud of, no?

Would be funny, if the joke was believable. Smith will never score.

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Newcastle-s-Jonas-Gutierrez-is-scared-of-playing-away-article175833.html Not sure if it has been posted So he doesn't, after all, admit he's scared of away games... Yet more rubbish by the papers.

He's a shrewd journalist in that he realises that you can win just as many readers by writing what people want to hear as you can by writing a load of controversial, complaint inspiring nonsense like the majority of journalists do. That article is just that, what a lot of people want to hear. Or what some spoilt numpties don't like to hear... The last sentence of bobyule wasn't there when I first replied. What a load of nonsense. Reducing Keegan's managerial credentials on a lack of trophies is so ignorant that you hardly can take it serious. Anyway. Football isn't about winning, it's about how you play. © Johan Cruijff I'd agree the last sentence of bobyule's post isn't right at all. Well taking a look at the records, I see that Cruyff won 24 trophies as a player, and 11 as a manager. You don't get a haul like that if winning isn't important to you. Winning shouldn't be the only thing, but it is important. Surely. There's a difference between being a good manager and being a winner. A winner has a bit of steel which takes them through the inevitably dodgy times when things aren't going well and everyone's saying how crap you are. It also helps if you have good ideas and good judgement that you feel you can rely on. That way when you're under pressure you still think clearly. For me, Keegan fails on both counts. Don't agree with you there bob. I think Keegan always had a very clear vision of what he wanted and to his credit he never wavered from it in that for him football had to be about entertainment. He isn't flawless by any means but he was never fuzzy on that one. Well fair point, but the entertainment at all costs is a bit of a cop-out, because no-one likes losing. When Keegan had his head in his hands when Liverpool beat us 4-3, he wasn't thinking, what an entertaining game. He was hurting. I guess you could describe the commitment to attacking football at all times, and the neglect of defence, a 'clear vision'. But there are times when the brave decision is to batten down the hatches and admit that victory is the most important. I don't know if you saw the 'Time of Our Lives' programme with Ginola, Bez and Howey, but they oozed frustration at the team's inability to finish the job. Charging forward at all times can be like a refusal to face up to the situation you're really in. You can say afterwards, 'We may have lost but we had a good go', but it's like you're denying how important winning really is to you. I've said this before, but the game that really cost us was Blackburn away, about a month before the end of the season, and it really epitomised what was lacking in Keegan's approach. If you remember, we went 1-0 up with 10 minutes to go, and all of a sudden we were back in pole position in the race with Man U. (If we'd won, we'd have gone into the final home match only needing a win to make sure of the title) What happened though was the most awesome collective nervous breakdown. We were absolutely terrible, needing a tactical decision but not getting one. We needed to defend, but we didn't have the mentality or the nous to do that. We were also too nervous to attack, and ended up conceding two soft goals. I guess that the failure to decide to defend, or to prepare any kind of defensive strategy on Keegan's part, wasn't a sign of strength. It was weakness. Or a lack of brains. was it weakness or lack of brains that lead alex ferguson to blow a real 12point lead over arsenal 2 seasons later ? Was it weakness or lack of brains when Ottmar OMG Hitzfeld blew a 1-0 lead in a European Cup Final in injury time? I can't remember what happened with Fergie and Arsenal, but I doubt if it was a lack of nerve. You don't win 40 odd trophies without knowing how to close things out. With Bayern, I'd say it was bad luck. They were the better side and should have won. That kind of thing can happen in football. I can't see the relevance here. Yes, it is possible to lose a lead for reasons other than bottling. That doesn't in itself invalidate my opinion on Keegan in 1996. so when newcastle lose a 12 point lead it's lack of nerve, when man utd do it must be something else ? It doesn't fit into his world view so it has to be ignored. Others have bad luck with Keegan it is lack of ability. Instead of judging the actual achievements under the circumstances and in this kind of style looking for the flaws is a bit simplistic and unfair if you ask me, espercially when persisting on those stupid myths of the 12 point lead and the poor defensive record. I am not sure or rather seriously doubt that any other manager would have been able to achieve the same with Newcastle in these years. A more pertinent question is why Ferguson and Hitzfeld have won so many major trophies and Keegan hasn't won any. I'd say that was more than luck. Ferguson is obviously a top manager but as I've said before he was gifted about eight internationals (a couple world class) for nothing in the likes of Beckham, Neville x 2, Scholes, Giggs, Butt etc. That made his job a lot easier.

I know people have brought it up before but I wish people would stop trying to sing songs as quick as possible. The Blaydon Races is not a rap. Why the need to rush everything?

2-0 Carroll and Gutierrez (FOR TEH LULZ)

You're right, Hughton should be given a four year contract.

Heresy, he will score GODAMMIT!

http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1813117,00.html

Only those are a class above? How many other teams have players as good as Guthrie, Taylor, Carroll etc. etc.? Just realised you probably just meant we lost Martins? That was the problem right? Who were the superstars who left? Viduka, Owen? Only Bassong was decent last season and Enrique was better than Beye.

theres aalways one sensible f***er with his feet on the ground. We've had this sort of pessimism before everyone game though, and its only really been right once.

It is an rubbish league though. People say it's tough but it really isn't, it just seems that way because all teams are equally crap. We came down with what should've been a decent PL squad (and probably would have stayed up with Kinnear in all season) and kept most of it together, so we should walk this league, as we are (kinda) doing at the mo'.

One of a few clubs that is not named after geographical location. Queen's Park?

It was a one of Nickelodeon's better programmes. Up there with Doug and Hey Arnold.