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not really with City insofar as I can remember they mostly made jibes at Man Utd about being their support being from Manchester as opposed to Man Utd being from London (ie like every other football fan apart from Man Utd fans) and their attendance held up very well even in the 3rd tier.

Mapou can feel unlucky and while I'd have kept him in the side ahead of Colo its not so big a difference to be all that concerned in the short term about. Anita can probably feel a bit unlucky too but as you said the system as present is working and getting decent football and he does come off the bench and I wouldn't put him ahead of Tiote or Cabaye who are a better balanced pair in cm than anita with either tbh. The problem with HBA is not and has never been one of talent its been application and consistency and the side now compared to the one prior to half time at Everton simply is better balanced in defense and attack without him at the moment. He will get his chance again no doubt and it will be up to him to take it and make himself undroppable when it arrives.

kiss goodbye to the majority of small clubs throughout the world if that happens and a new era of huge clubs and players on even more ridiculous contracts.

bad time to play them as Pulis has given them a bounce in performance and results, draw seems probable

I'll treat that like I treat what any manager says prior to a transfer window, complete tripe. He has no say and probably no clue on the ins and outs (which is a problem by itself)

Have to agree, we should be striving to find a way to accommodate him. IMO it's simple, just drop Shola in the vast majority of games and give HBA a free role behind Remy. when has he at any point during the quite a few chances he's had behind the striker has he ever done anything for us? The only position hes been effective has been on the right and thats when he plays where he should play and on current form sissoko doesn't deserve to be dropped from there.

That's rubbish imo. It's mourinho being a cunt as per usual to anyone who disowns him. Maybe. I have no inside knowledge. It's just a gut feeling. But it's well known the reason AVB left was because he wanted more responsibility. Jose had him working as a scout and refused to promote him. Then they had a falling out. The fact Mourinho didn't want to promote him speaks volumes to my ears. or shows that Mourinho is a complete cunt since AVB has hardly been a complete disaster and utterly clueless since he became a manager.

Ashley never seemed to have faith in Hughton to begin with

This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a fuck and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will fuck off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Realistically we won't be competing with them, not in the long term so I don't see how improving our options is going to be a detriment to us. Its not like Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd etc... can't just go out and buy a shed load of talent whenever they please. These are clubs who have players struggling to get an appearance who would walk into our side. As for fattening up, what does that really mean? If these players are good enough they will get loans anyway, why not improve the quality of our squad if we get the chance rather than letting them go to our real rivals while we have our 'pride'. I'd rather hang onto pride and hope that with intelligent enough planning and leadership from top to bottom of the club that in time we could compete with them again rather than wave the white flag and admit we'll never be better than them because if thats the case then what the fuck is the point. So because we are being realistic there isn't any point? Fair enough, let your West Broms, Evertons etc.. loan the quality talent while we have Shola starting or Obertan a couple of injuries from starting yes west brom, borrowed lukaku got a nice temporary boost and now they've crashed back down as that short term thinking left a large hole in their squad this season compared to last, they would have been better off taking a chance on some young player their scouting department think could be a good player.

This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a fuck and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will fuck off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Realistically we won't be competing with them, not in the long term so I don't see how improving our options is going to be a detriment to us. Its not like Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd etc... can't just go out and buy a shed load of talent whenever they please. These are clubs who have players struggling to get an appearance who would walk into our side. As for fattening up, what does that really mean? If these players are good enough they will get loans anyway, why not improve the quality of our squad if we get the chance rather than letting them go to our real rivals while we have our 'pride'. I'd rather hang onto pride and hope that with intelligent enough planning and leadership from top to bottom of the club that in time we could compete with them again rather than wave the white flag and admit we'll never be better than them because if thats the case then what the fuck is the point.

This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a f*** and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will f*** off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams" Preventing ourselves from acquiring quality players for a season without paying a transfer fee is going to help NUFC compete with the upper echelon of the league? The club should do what is best for itself. and when these players go back to their parent club? its short term thinking at its worst. we should be looking to sign young players of ability on permanent deals not borrow them for a temporary lift which will fade once he's gone anyway.

This. I hate it. I have lost faith in players giving a fuck and showing any loyalty so if a good one who would improve our squad becomes available on loan I would be more than happy to take them. They will fuck off as soon as someone bigger/offering more money comes along anyway so why not improve us in the short term? Would anyone have seriously turned their nose up at Lukaku on a season long loan? Teams like Man Utd and Chelsea are more than likely going to be ahead of us long term so why not take advantage of their greed? A lot of the time these players don't stay at their parent club anyway. we're supposed to be competing with these teams, not fattening up players because they have so many players through stockpiling them they can't play them all and they get pissy about it. The only kind of loan I can tolerate is a loan with a buy out clause, otherwise its just an admission that you really are just another small pathetic club and all that matters is the "sky teams"

its the principle of the matter. I would much rather give a chance to one of our kids than loan one of manchester uniteds regardless of ability gap because at the end of the day its a ridiculous short term measure and only to manchester uniteds benefit.

I just don't want to be fattening up other clubs players for them.

he has absolutely no end ball whatsoever, bad enough watching him play for ireland think I'd lose it if it was for both nufc and ireland

the entire AVB thing is annoying me now. Watching SSN and the way the fans were going on you'd swear they were near the bottom of the table talk of "writing off this season" your fucking 4 points off your objective for the season of 4th! (and yes I know ssn will look for that kind of thing but still it bugs me)

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25409755 more trouble at Cardiff imminent?

not sure but for some reason I seem to recall a lot the season when it went from 22 to 20 teams. After checking 15 changes in manager in 94/95

Zola resigns from Watford

anyway next for the chop is one of Hughton/Allerdyce/McKay imo

bye Arsenal. I'd give City a chance in their one.

so they have faith in him 4 months ago to the point of spending £100m on him but a couple of bad results (while they remain within touching distance of their goal of the champions league places) suddenly hes not the man. Football doesn't make sense at times

AVB takes full responsibility wonder how the mail will twist that into an attack on his players by him

IF we bring someone in. Lets do it. too big an if

AVB/Hughton/Allerdyce with McKay not far behind in the threat list imho