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I only hope nobody dares tries calling the likes of Dave and I pessimists ever again.

 

44 minutes left ffs!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry by the way, there's no need for such daftness, but trust me when I say i'm as gutted as any Newcastle fan about tonights (lack of) transfer activity. It's frustration on my part, and it's not the fault of anyone aside from Mike and Derek for the situation we find ourselves in.

 

Apologies too, I am one of the optimists but I am also really, really f***ed off. It's more a kick in the balls because I know I am a mug for getting my hopes up

 

As much as I may well come across as a negative get, deep down I'm a positive fecker (to the point where I convinced myself allardyce would turn it around). But this lot in charge have robbed me (football wise) of any hope whatsoever. Hell, Marcheda on loan would me a godsend right now.

I only hope nobody dares tries calling the likes of Dave and I pessimists ever again.

 

44 minutes left ffs!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry by the way, there's no need for such daftness, but trust me when I say i'm as gutted as any Newcastle fan about tonights (lack of) transfer activity. It's frustration on my part, and it's not the fault of anyone aside from Mike and Derek for the situation we find ourselves in.

I only hope nobody dares to call the likes of Dave and I pessimists ever again.

Serious question for the unfeasibly optimisic fucknuckles amongst our support: why do you do it to yourself?

 

You deserve all the contempt and pejoritive brickbats that will surely come your way. Enjoy...

 

Congratulations, you live without hope and joy in your life, but you happen to correct in this instance. Well done.

 

Far from it, though kudos for applying an absurd leap or logic. It's not my fault that you and your somewhat deluded ilk have been left looking rather foolish. Still, there's always January, no?

 

Why act like an utter c***? Optimist or Pesimist everyone will be f***ed off by this. I don't see the point in acting the c*** and telling people they deserve this s***

 

Grow up you moron.

 

Aye, because I'm delighted at this. You absolute lollipop licking w*****.

 

Can you both knock this s*** off? I know tempers are high but there's no need.

Fair and true enough. Apologies.

Serious question for the unfeasibly optimisic fucknuckles amongst our support: why do you do it to yourself?

 

You deserve all the contempt and pejoritive brickbats that will surely come your way. Enjoy...

 

Congratulations, you live without hope and joy in your life, but you happen to correct in this instance. Well done.

 

Far from it, though kudos for applying an absurd leap of logic. It's not my fault that you and your somewhat deluded ilk have been left looking rather foolish. Still, there's always January, no?

 

I never thought we would sign this guy if that's what you mean, so I'm not sure how I look foolish. But I don't assume we'll fail with every bid, we've already made some very decent signings. Should have been at least one more, but most clubs probably think that.

 

 

Fair enough Ian, and seeing as you're normally sensible with your posts I'll overlook your last one - are you not suprised, nay disappointed, at the lack of a centre-forward (Demba-Ba excepted) given the glaring need for one all summer long?

Serious question for the unfeasibly optimisic fucknuckles amongst our support: why do you do it to yourself?

 

You deserve all the contempt and pejoritive brickbats that will surely come your way. Enjoy...

 

Congratulations, you live without hope and joy in your life, but you happen to correct in this instance. Well done.

 

Far from it, though kudos for applying an absurd leap or logic. It's not my fault that you and your somewhat deluded ilk have been left looking rather foolish. Still, there's always January, no?

 

Why act like an utter c***? Optimist or Pesimist everyone will be f***ed off by this. I don't see the point in acting the c*** and telling people they deserve this s***

 

Grow up you moron.

Aye, because I'm delighted at this. You absolute lollipop licking wanker.

Ages left lads.

Hang on Dave, we've been unduly pessimistic all along, haven't we? I'm sure we'll be proved wrong come 11pm.

Serious question for the unfeasibly optimisic fucknuckles amongst our support: why do you do it to yourself?

 

You deserve all the contempt and pejoritive brickbats that will surely come your way. Enjoy...

 

Congratulations, you live without hope and joy in your life, but you happen to correct in this instance. Well done.

Far from it, though kudos for applying an absurd leap of logic. It's not my fault that you and your somewhat deluded ilk have been left looking rather foolish. Still, there's always January, no?

Serious question for the unfeasibly optimisic fucknuckles amongst our support: why do you do it to yourself?

You deserve all the contempt and pejoritive brickbats that will surely come your way. Enjoy...

Let's get this right - there are people, real living, talking mouth breathers, who thought we'd bring in a centre-forward at this late stage? Mascochists, dreamers or mascochistic dreamers?

 

Well I thought they'd recognise at least that we are massively, massively short in that area and at least make an effort.  Bendtner has gone on loan to the Mackems for f***s sake

 

You're forgetting that this regime don't give a flying f*** about this club.

 

Surely even Ashley must realise that not buying a striker means we will be lower down the table and lose out on a lot of money (perhaps even relegation if those around us spend well).  He's just gambling that we'll do enough to stay up for the minimum investment.

 

Can't see how anyone can stick up for this regime now.

I'm sure there will be at least one or two on hand with their default mechanisms *cough bobbyule*

Realistically though, no chance of signing anyone out of the blue in the next couple of hours. Seriously, we've had this long to bring a striker in, you really think if it was happening we'd leave it until 11pm today??

 

Laughable. s*** small time board.

 

Sorry to break it to you, but the lure of the capital and a potential lateral move to Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea in the future is a lot more attractive than a potential move to the Mackems or Boro.

 

And I wish that people would stop harping on about how we've left everything so late.  We've already signed a couple of decent players and other clubs seem to be suffering in the market too.  Until such time as anyone on this board can show me a business plan that's predicated on last-minute purchases, then I call bullshit on the whole thing.

 

We've got less than two hours to wait and whatever happens, que sera, sera.

 

If only we'd known since the end of the January transfer window that we needed at least two centre-forwards. Man alive, if only we'd known...

 

How do you know that enquiries haven't been made behind the scene?  The player market has been fairly stale for the last two years now, bar marquee players.

Well, you know, I dunno, we could have wasted at least two months of the transfer window chasing a player that patently did not want to come here. Then again, it's always difficult finding an upgrade on the majesterial striking magnificence that is Lovenkrands, Ameobi et al...

Let's get this right - there are people, real living, talking mouth breathers, who thought we'd bring in a centre-forward at this late stage? Mascochists, dreamers or mascochistic dreamers?

 

Well I thought they'd recognise at least that we are massively, massively short in that area and at least make an effort.  Bendtner has gone on loan to the Mackems for f***s sake

You're forgetting that this regime don't give a flying fuck about this club.

Realistically though, no chance of signing anyone out of the blue in the next couple of hours. Seriously, we've had this long to bring a striker in, you really think if it was happening we'd leave it until 11pm today??

 

Laughable. s*** small time board.

 

Sorry to break it to you, but the lure of the capital and a potential lateral move to Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea in the future is a lot more attractive than a potential move to the Mackems or Boro.

 

And I wish that people would stop harping on about how we've left everything so late.  We've already signed a couple of decent players and other clubs seem to be suffering in the market too.  Until such time as anyone on this board can show me a business plan that's predicated on last-minute purchases, then I call bullshit on the whole thing.

 

We've got less than two hours to wait and whatever happens, que sera, sera.

If only we'd known since the end of the January transfer window that we needed at least two centre-forwards. Man alive, if only we'd known...

Let's get this right - there are people, real living, talking mouth breathers, who thought we'd bring in a centre-forward at this late stage? Mascochists, dreamers or mascochistic dreamers?

What's he going to buy next? Eclipse? Naf-Naf? Global Hypercolor?

Troop, British Knights and Pringle.

Poor little blighter - very happy to contribute towards such a good cause and will certainly pass on the message to as many people as I can. Wish the little girl nothing but sunshine, lollipops and happier times ahead.

If I had his number, I'd certainly consider ringing him, then call him a fat cow before hanging up.

As long as a good striker, left back and right midfielder are signed before the transfer window deadline, we'll be fine. If not, anywhere between 12th-16th seems acceptable. Top 8 talk remains the exclusive preserve of crackheads and the mentally ill.

Yes but so far we haven't lost in competitive fixtures this season though

Started off well under Allardyce despite being largely unconvincing, too. Well, until Derby County away.

Not sure what to choose anymore...

 

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Father Dougal Maguire will know, to be sure.

Putting aside for one moment who's to blame for Barton leaving - will he be replaced? And if so, will that replacement be as good or better?

If the answer is no to either the first or second question, then we have part 1672647438483826767868368723678378367896786278678678637867851267125671275236348973489726378067834678346784647864807648904678903647806786278016347806780263478067802678067806478046807678067806708th of NUFC's bad decisons made under this regime.

Cap duly doffed to cushion face for services rendered thus far.

Mike Lowes saying, that we offered him 4-year contract on 60k a week.

Mick Lowes is a once decent football commentator who is now so far up Ashley's ringpiece he can taste Derek's cock.

Whats happening with Bendtner?

He's just watched Limitless and is now going to sue the makers for their unsanctioned usage of the 'Bendtner' drug.

'Bartons's greedy, Keegan's greedy, Shearer's greedy, Nolan's greedy, Carroll's greedy, Enrique's greedy...la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la,la not listening' ad f***ing infinitum.

 

Barton - Left for a much bigger wage than he merits

Keegan - The club were proven wrong here

Shearer - Contract was up, he hadn't exactly shown signs of being much of a manager to get us up, don't see an issue here.

Nolan - Left for a much bigger wage and length contract than he merits.

Carroll - We got a lot more than his market value, he got a massive payrise, joined a bigger club.

Enrique - Wouldn't sign new contract, joined a bigger club.

 

Nothing to do with the club then? Thought not...

 

Your seeing it black and white, as many have said there is blame on all sides, your just ranting away, you have some valid points but they are being lost in your anger.

 

Okay, let's take Barton. The board in a fit of pique put a valuable member of the team on what is essentially a free transfer. Nolan I wouldn't have given the length of contract, but his comments about promises made sound depressingly familiar. Keegan was vindicated by an industrial injuries tribunal. Enrique may well have refused to sign a new contract but had made it abundantly clear that he believed the club lacked ambition. The Carroll deal moneywise was a very good deal, but is looking less like one every day without an adequate strikeforce. Shearer presumably wanted more than ju-ju beans and a curly-wurly as his transfer budget (or wanted £700 million for Messi et al depending who you believe).

 

So no, it's not black and white, but with every exit through the door the ringing chimes of 'mercenary' or 'greedy' is as disheartening as it is groundhog day-esque. Yes, everyone knows footballers can be greedy and arseholes to boot, but I'd wager that the underlying problem is more to do with Ashley's complete and utter lack of ambition. And again, although there's nothing you or I can do about that does not make it right or acceptable. The t***'s making supporting this club a sufferance than a labour of love.

 

I'm yet to see one person call them greedy or a mercenary btw. Plenty of people understanding why they'd take a payrise in two cases, or join a bigger club in the other two.

 

You only need to look at previous posts on this very forum to see Enrique, Carroll and Nolan having those very same epiphets tossed in their general direction, liberally or otherwise. Again though, it's missing the underlying reason why - Ashley has no ambition for this club and seemingly could not care less where the club finishes as long as we avoid relegation.

 

And yet two of those players are quite happy to join a recently relegated team, and a team who'll be lucky to survive...cool.

 

Which reinforces my point - they'd rather join such clubs that at least have a sliver of ambition than stay at a club they know, or at least feel, won't be going anywhere. No alarms and no suprises, as Mr Yorke once opined.

 

I'll bet you £50 that QPR & West Ham don't finish above Newcastle for as long as Barton & Nolan are there.

 

As long as Warlock Warnock and Easter Island noggin are in charge of those respective clubs, I wouldn't even bet you a pair of orthopaedic shoes that even Norwich won't finish ahead of them. If you're going to question the stature or current staus of the clubs they've joined or about to join, what on earth does that say about us? It's the equivalent of your lass finishing you for a speccy 18 stone geek with a WOW obsession, laughing heartily at him then thinking to yourself, 'hang on...'

 

These ambitious clubs have managers that won't progress them? Hmm surely ambitious clubs won't accept that?

 

And who's to say they'll last long there? As long as Ashley remains in charge of NUFC this club will get nowhere. The model was Arsenal, now we're Wigan Athletic with a cold breeze.

 

See these 'dramatic' over reactions make any debates pointless. First we are less ambitious than West Ham and QPR, now are are the new Wigan. Next we will be the team Stevenage dreaded they could become or the place Luton fought against becoming.

 

We have players like Krul, Colo, Taylor, Williamson, Marveaux, Jonas, Cabaye, Gosling, Obertan, Tiote, Ba, Ben Arfa etc.. who would walk into these "ambitious" sides (and I have missed a few), in fact they would w*** themselves to death to get a sniff of a few of them because they would never get a chance.

 

A lot really put us down and have little respect for a lot of the fantastic players we have attracted despite out horrendous lack of ambition.

And how do we now how the likes of Marveaux will adapt (Cabaye even, although he does look the business and have high hopes for the handsome get)? Ben Arfa's fitness? Gosling's? Obertan's ability to look up when running?  That's the frustrating thing as potentially we have the makings of a good team but the man in charge is either unwilling or unable to try and push on and get the requisite players in. Aside from the top 6-7, there is much of a muchness which NUFC should be aiming for (top 8, that is).