Rosenrot

Wasn’t it discussed previously that 80%+ ownership gives you more “rights” over other shareholders? Hence why the fact Sheik Mansour technically only owns 78% of Manchester City is relevant? ?‍♂️

You're saying this as fact, rather than opinion. Depends who you believe of course. Which deleted account were you btw? Godzilla? Both the PL and buyer have said this - it’s about the only thing they both agree on. Staveley through her various interviews and the PL through their propaganda session just before PIF ‘withdrew’ claiming there was an impasse due to the make up of the organisations. Plus it’s also what I’ve heard, unofficially, and makes the most sense as legally the PL couldn’t reject the takeover based on the piracy. Can you put a link to where the premier league said this please? I’ve literally told you what happened in my post, the articles were all posted in this thread - go and read it yourself and join the dots up. Why whenever I ask posters like you (you know, the ones who "KNOW THIS IS ON") you always refuse to post the links to your facts? Because I work a full time job and don’t have the time/can’t be arsed to pull up the 5 or 6 articles which were posted at the time. Here’s one, by example: www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/27/newcastle-united-takeover-gridlocked-saudi-led-consortium-struggles/amp/ Fwiw, I’ve never said ‘I know it’s on’ - I’ve just posted the information I have which may or may not be relevant or true. I’m confident it is on, but the only people who ‘know’ are sat in PL headquarters. Ahh, I misunderstood. I read your post as it being the PL who had said it, which is why you were so certain. But actually it's Luke Edwards. That makes things much clearer. So you're basing your facts (opinions) on a story from Luke Edwards and some information put out by Staveley. Cool. And the 5 other articles all written at exactly the same time? Did Luke Edwards tell them? Or was the information from a source distributed to multiple journalists at the same time? Not sure why Staveley would be the source - she was furious by it. Not sure why Ashley would be the source - he nearly lost much needed investment. Who else is left?... Then ask yourself - why is it important for the PL to have MBS added as a director if it's nothing relating to piracy? Already been answered countless times - because the PL have concerns he will have control of (or major influence in) the club, which is against their rules as a state cannot own a club. Right, so they want it so they can reject it? So basically they have every right to be asking for this if it's going to be the case (you say it's easily solved) It is easily solved - assurances have been given that MBS will have no control. PL weren’t willing to accept that, but with the pressure now being applied, it is hoped that the PL will reconsider this stance and accept the assurances they have been given. He's the chairman of the public investment fund for fuck sake, stop deluding yourself. Sheik Mansour owns Abu Dhabi United Group, which owns 80% of Manchester City. What’s your point? The Abu Dhabi United Group isn't the investment fund of Abu Dhabi or the UAE. So what? The PL didn’t seem to think Sheik Mansour’s control over Abu Dhabi United Group and therefore Manchester City was relevant to the O&D test so why does MBS’s ultimate control over PIF, and therefore Newcastle United, matter? The situation is the same. It’s inconsistent.

You're saying this as fact, rather than opinion. Depends who you believe of course. Which deleted account were you btw? Godzilla? Both the PL and buyer have said this - it’s about the only thing they both agree on. Staveley through her various interviews and the PL through their propaganda session just before PIF ‘withdrew’ claiming there was an impasse due to the make up of the organisations. Plus it’s also what I’ve heard, unofficially, and makes the most sense as legally the PL couldn’t reject the takeover based on the piracy. Can you put a link to where the premier league said this please? I’ve literally told you what happened in my post, the articles were all posted in this thread - go and read it yourself and join the dots up. Why whenever I ask posters like you (you know, the ones who "KNOW THIS IS ON") you always refuse to post the links to your facts? Because I work a full time job and don’t have the time/can’t be arsed to pull up the 5 or 6 articles which were posted at the time. Here’s one, by example: www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/07/27/newcastle-united-takeover-gridlocked-saudi-led-consortium-struggles/amp/ Fwiw, I’ve never said ‘I know it’s on’ - I’ve just posted the information I have which may or may not be relevant or true. I’m confident it is on, but the only people who ‘know’ are sat in PL headquarters. Ahh, I misunderstood. I read your post as it being the PL who had said it, which is why you were so certain. But actually it's Luke Edwards. That makes things much clearer. So you're basing your facts (opinions) on a story from Luke Edwards and some information put out by Staveley. Cool. And the 5 other articles all written at exactly the same time? Did Luke Edwards tell them? Or was the information from a source distributed to multiple journalists at the same time? Not sure why Staveley would be the source - she was furious by it. Not sure why Ashley would be the source - he nearly lost much needed investment. Who else is left?... Then ask yourself - why is it important for the PL to have MBS added as a director if it's nothing relating to piracy? Already been answered countless times - because the PL have concerns he will have control of (or major influence in) the club, which is against their rules as a state cannot own a club. Right, so they want it so they can reject it? So basically they have every right to be asking for this if it's going to be the case (you say it's easily solved) It is easily solved - assurances have been given that MBS will have no control. PL weren’t willing to accept that, but with the pressure now being applied, it is hoped that the PL will reconsider this stance and accept the assurances they have been given. He's the chairman of the public investment fund for fuck sake, stop deluding yourself. Sheik Mansour owns Abu Dhabi United Group, which owns 80% of Manchester City. What’s your point?

Proactive Sports Management Limited v Wayne Rooney is another good English sport case where a contractural agreement has been declared void after the fact.

Private or not, you cannot change the agreed contractual obligations of either side after the process has begun, unless agreed by both sides. The PL, even as a private company, will have to have followed their own rules by the letter as this is contractually agreed between 2 parties. If the consortium feel there is any grey area in the PLs actions during this test which has prevented a purchase, caused financial loss, not just the deposit but the costs of an on going investigation and legal representation then they have a case to make. Generally yes, unless its deemed as being in restraint of trade and is therefore void unless can be justified. I’m not saying there’s a restraint of trade case here what so ever, but to say that “you cannot change the agreed contractural obligations of either side” is incorrect.

An English court can certainly overturn rules of private companies in certain circumstances. Look at the case of Eastham v Newcastle United Football Club for one example.

A journalist is guessing that Ashley might have a restraint of trade case. I’d really like to hear how they argue that. Mind, same journalist in the same article says the PL have to say something other than generic, meaningless bullshit. Sure thing, from your lips to God’s ears, you blessedly ignorant fool Are you a lawyer?

Are you telling me that Steve Bruce didn’t actually just sign it?

Are we talking about the petition or the race to 46 million murders? Both

150 to go.

I suggest you just log out go for a nice walk and forget about being a football fan. What's the point, where being fucked over by the EPL and the top 6. Must have passed you by though ehh What? Don't think you've really followed this closely enough if that's your take mate. The point is the prem shouldn't be allowed to ignore a deal and not deliver a decision. The decision is not the problem, the lack of one is. I know that’s the point. I know the PL shouldn’t be allowed to ignore a deal and not deliver a decision. I know the problem is that there is a lack of a decision. I’m talking about whether the takeover is going to go through or not, not whether it’s fair or not. Well, that will come when we hear their decision? Everything until is just bluster haha We might never hear a decision. That’s the problem.

The fact he ignored it worries me. It suggests the answer is “nothing”.

I suggest you just log out go for a nice walk and forget about being a football fan. What's the point, where being fucked over by the EPL and the top 6. Must have passed you by though ehh What? I could spend a week typing trying to get the reasons behind all this across to you, I doubt you would understand. Good chat mate.

I suggest you just log out go for a nice walk and forget about being a football fan. What's the point, where being fucked over by the EPL and the top 6. Must have passed you by though ehh What? Don't think you've really followed this closely enough if that's your take mate. The point is the prem shouldn't be allowed to ignore a deal and not deliver a decision. The decision is not the problem, the lack of one is. I know that’s the point. I know the PL shouldn’t be allowed to ignore a deal and not deliver a decision. I know the problem is that there is a lack of a decision. I’m talking about whether the takeover is going to go through or not, not whether it’s fair or not.

I suggest you just log out go for a nice walk and forget about being a football fan. What's the point, where being fucked over by the EPL and the top 6. Must have passed you by though ehh What?

Who told you that? Do you really think they’re just going to turn around and say “actually, we’re gonna approve it anyway, nevermind all our concerns”.

So “if the PL approve the deal, the deal will go through”. Well the PL are not going to approve the deal - so the deal is dead. What’s really the point in all of this?

Is it?

(total guess) but isn't renewal automatic ? Don’t think so - according to the website my subs were due for renewal in May. P.S. I grew up in Solihull - nice place.

No. They don’t give a shit.

thing that can't be ignored is the piracy stuff as its perceived as a threat to future tv income from the MENA region for all 20 clubs they can't just ignore it and wave it through as they'll have 19 other clubs, bein and hell probably a few other rights holders hammering at their door wondering what the fuck they're playing at on one hand taking various efforts to stop the piracy and getting nowhere and on the other just letting the crowd who have been letting the piracy happen just waltz in. Saudi Arabia has shown 0 signs of doing anything to think they're going to crack down on it and indeed seem to be doing the exact opposite by appealing the WTO judgement and banning bein But the test only take into account behavior that is an offence that has resulted in a conviction, or would be equivalent to an offence in this country whether or not there has been an actual conviction. In this case the PL my be equating the WTO report to a conviction of an offence (although that seems to be really pushing the boundaries of their definition) but the O&D test rules also have an exception for circumstances where there is an appeal against the conviction of an offence and it would not be reasonable to await its outcome, as is clearly the case hear because the WTO appeal process is in limbo. That appeal has probably killed any case the PL could have to resist the takeover on the basis of piracy. Apparently its the “utmost good faith” requirement under the PL rules that the PL are using?

What? I think he might be bantering.

I believe my Trust membership is due for renewal but I can’t work out how to do this. I can still login, and receive emails as normal.

This whole thing is ruining my mental health. I hate the lot of them.