Froggy

I mean, I said he'd stay and was laughed off of the forum. Froggy always knows big chief.

You're deluded if you think those four didn't want the job.

They absolutely would have been looking at replacements though this is the thing. In those days you would have never known. No twitter journalists leaking everything.

If that's not proof Ten Hag is the new Fergie then I don't know what is.

Not really. Sometimes it can come down to a single game. Fergie's future came down to one game as well. Ten Hag has shown he's a winner. He's delivered two trophies in two seasons. Back him in the summer, get the three main positions sorted, and see how he goes. If we're still conceding 20 shots a game he's gone by November provided we're not playing Jonny Evans and Disco at centre back again due to an injury crisis.

That's not what happened though. his job depended on the cup. He knew it. We all knew it. No managers were approached after that final. Any club in that position would be sending feelers out to make sure a plan is in place, it's just seemingly impossible for us to keep a lid on things. As I said earlier, we'd be called amateurish if we sacked him without a ready replacement.

Make no mistake, there were a lot of absolutely awful performances, and ones where it was entirely the managers fault. The team always did what was asked though. For 80% of the season that was playing kamikaze Ten Hag ball where they were being asked to press high and do full pitch sprints every two minutes. I'm usually all for a manager implementing their style and refusing to change, but with the injuries we had that wasn't viable. I'm glad he went more defensive in the final moments of the season or we would have been torn to shreds and finished 9th rather than finishing 8th with a trophy. He'll get his centre back, defensive midfielder and striker in the summer and with the important players fit, he'll need to deliver top four at a minimum or he'll likely be sacked unless he wins the Europa League. Just because we wanted him to stay doesn't mean we were entirely happy with how that season went.

Give that we've just won the FA Cup, I'd say it could be a lot more of a shambles.

It's printed about us every time there's a downturn of form and has been since Moyes came in. There's a ludicrous amount of absolute shit posted about us.

He's the complete opposite.

Plenty of posts today. Just nothing to say on Sir Dan. We either get him for cheap or wait a year and get him for nothing while you pay him millions. Probably working for us now anyway.

Rashford and his mates at the club have always leaked things through multiple managers. Just a rotten group. Sancho is part of it as well. I do think if Ten Hag had his way Rashford would be gone, but he's the golden boy PR dream, born in Manchester. He's not going anywhere.

Sancho isn't part of the squad and likely will never be again. There's nothing to suggest Rashford doesn't like Ten Hag, he's just a lazy, useless fucker.

The squad loves Ten Hag.

Why would they know before that?

I genuinely just think Casemiro has gone to shit. Although from decent sources he wasn't injured for the final and instead threw the head up because he wouldn't be playing so if he wasn't checked out before he will be now. He's almost certainly played his last game from the club if PIF can help us shift him. If you say a bad word about Mainoo again though I will find you and I will hurt you.

Worth noting, I'm well aware how good Sancho can be. His issues aren't his ability. He has a well documented and proven record of poor discipline both at Dortmund and us. I'm happy for players like that to leave, and if we can recoup £40m for him I would get rid of him without a second thought. I'd sell Rashford for the same if I could. Sancho + £20m (from Greenwood money) would get us a player like Olise, which I'd be delighted with.

I'm not sure I could have survived Southgate.

Sorry Ian.

I'm friends with multiple Dortmund season ticket holders. I watch all of their games and have been multiple times myself. I love Dortmund. They do want to keep him, but more because of how good he was before. He hasn't been good since he came back aside from two or three games. He was good in the CL semi, but was horrible in the final. Two assists and two goals in 20+ games for Dortmund, in a league that has about 4 good defenders. It's interesting you say that he took a while to get fitness and sharpness back, because IMO his best performances aside from the CL semi were his first few games back. He tailed off again after that. The hope is that they can pick him up for cheap, and he rediscovers his form from a few years ago. They don't want to pay more than €20m for a permanent transfer though and would prefer to get him on loan again. I can't see either happening. Hoping he goes to West Ham or something for £40m.

That's your opinion. Just because you disagree with that's being said doesn't mean others aren't enjoying the engagement. I find comments like yours and 80's boring, and find my own to be incredibly riveting.

The entertainment is all mine, believe me.

Yes he does. Part of the problem was him continuing to play his football which wasn't possible given the players we had available, because of a mountain of injuries. As he should have been. He only played so much because of injuries. Hojlund is 21. He's had a few injuries this season. He played way too much. I was delighted to see Hojlund protected a bit more, and when he came off the bench he was far more effective to close out the season. He would have played less but we didn't have a backup striker, because of injuries. Of course they can, but you need a high quality defensive midfielder, which we didn't have due to a mixture of Casemiro's legs falling off and because of injuries. Wolves I'll give you, but Brentford?