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Hanshithispantz

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  1. No way Barton can be classed as ambitious in a footballing sense now like. He wanted a payday and he's took it, I cannot blame him for it, but his footballing career at the top is effectively over unless he manages to win another move.
  2. I don't think anyone wanted this outcome. Some of us are just baulking at the idea that Ashley is entirely to blame. Barton has behaved in an arrogant and selfish manner over the last few months. QPR is what he deserves. I agree about Barton, I think it was pretty obvios what he was up to the day he opened up his twitter account. I still put 100% blame on Ashley giving him away though. Had he stayed he would have put a shift in on the pitch until his contract had expired, which is all that matters from a footballer, so imo from a purely footballing persoective we've lost out big time due to Ashley's stubborness (or asset stripping, whichever way you want to see it). You seem to be agreeing with me that he was behaving badly and selfishly, but that all would have been well for a year the minute he stepped on to the pitch. I beg to differ. Already we had him having a major row with his manager and a team-mate at the Leeds game, and against Arsenal he got himself involved completely unnecessarily in an incident where he actually turned his back when in possession of the ball to grapple with an opposition player. The Arsenal incident ended happily for us, but it could have turned out differently. It's logical to assume we'd have had a continuation of these sorts of episodes throughout the season. I think you're underestimating the importance of team spirit and unity. Barton was talking and acting like he was above it all and that can have a corrosive effect. Pardew was talking like he could control the situation by his diplomatic way, but he was kidding himself. There was no predicting what was going to happen next. We'll have to agree to disagree, I would argue that his Arsenal antics, aswell as arguing with the manager about team selection could be a sign of a player who wants to win though, as opposed to someone who is just trying to kick up a fuss because he's in a huff. I don't neccesarily like it, but I doubt it would have continued to the same extent throughout the entire season. @Hoppaz I genunily havn't got a clue what you're trying to get at now like. I give in.
  3. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall). We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway. Hang on a second, is the argument that Ashley's only in it for the money and that's it, or that we're giving players away for nowt now? Barton's was a punishment for how he acted the t*** to his employers in public. Apart from that, we've never just given anyone away. Stupid argument tbh. He's a high wage earner, he's now off the payroll. This wasn't punishment to Barton in any way shaoe or form, quite the opposite infact, it gave him freedom to do what he wanted a year before his contract ran out. Jeez are u joey barton in disguise? The guy has only turned up after years of fighting his inner deacons. Come on then hopperz, explain to me how Joey has been 'punished' in this whole farce? He's gotten exactly what he wanted, a decent contract to see out his career. But aye, I must be Joey Barton if I think giving away players for free for saying s*** on twitter is a bit extreme. You are forgetting his history though. Would be different if it was a bigger team but QPR. P.s. spell my name right I havn't forgotten his history, i'm just not closed minded enough to still judge him on it. He's seemingly improved as a person over the past few years, he's still a gobby c*** with an ego, but he's put a lot of things right. And who has come in for him doesn't matter, i've seen with my own eyes what he brings to us last season, the fact a Champions League club havn't come in for him does not change that, giving him away for nothing is utterly ridiculous. It does though matter though. Just one championship team has come in for him. I see what he brings to the team but bigger teams have players who bring more than joey barton. Open your mind mate. Aye QPR are a Championship team like... And bigger teams do have better players than Joey Barton, but there out of our range so it's irrelivant. The fact is he was more than good enough for where we are at, and giving him away is f***ing silly regardless of how many teams were willing or able to take him onboard. If you choose to reply then please come back with a valid point using perspective and reasoning. Joey is so so good only a promoted team is willing to gamble on him. Yes he is a good player but there are better. Do you hear players like Colo, Ben afra etc moaning about the change. NO, maybe they know better eh? I see you ignored my advice about replying with a point using perspective and reasoning.
  4. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall). We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway. Hang on a second, is the argument that Ashley's only in it for the money and that's it, or that we're giving players away for nowt now? Barton's was a punishment for how he acted the t*** to his employers in public. Apart from that, we've never just given anyone away. Stupid argument tbh. He's a high wage earner, he's now off the payroll. This wasn't punishment to Barton in any way shaoe or form, quite the opposite infact, it gave him freedom to do what he wanted a year before his contract ran out. Jeez are u joey barton in disguise? The guy has only turned up after years of fighting his inner deacons. Come on then hopperz, explain to me how Joey has been 'punished' in this whole farce? He's gotten exactly what he wanted, a decent contract to see out his career. But aye, I must be Joey Barton if I think giving away players for free for saying s*** on twitter is a bit extreme. You are forgetting his history though. Would be different if it was a bigger team but QPR. P.s. spell my name right I havn't forgotten his history, i'm just not closed minded enough to still judge him on it. He's seemingly improved as a person over the past few years, he's still a gobby c*** with an ego, but he's put a lot of things right. And who has come in for him doesn't matter, i've seen with my own eyes what he brings to us last season, the fact a Champions League club havn't come in for him does not change that, giving him away for nothing is utterly ridiculous. It does though matter though. Just one championship team has come in for him. I see what he brings to the team but bigger teams have players who bring more than joey barton. Open your mind mate. Aye QPR are a Championship team like... And bigger teams do have better players than Joey Barton, but there out of our range so it's irrelivant. The fact is he was more than good enough for where we are at, and giving him away is fucking silly regardless of how many teams were willing or able to take him onboard. If you choose to reply then please come back with a valid point using perspective and reasoning.
  5. I don't think anyone wanted this outcome. Some of us are just baulking at the idea that Ashley is entirely to blame. Barton has behaved in an arrogant and selfish manner over the last few months. QPR is what he deserves. I agree about Barton, I think it was pretty obvios what he was up to the day he opened up his twitter account. I still put 100% blame on Ashley giving him away though. Had he stayed he would have put a shift in on the pitch until his contract had expired, which is all that matters from a footballer, so imo from a purely footballing persoective we've lost out big time due to Ashley's stubborness (or asset stripping, whichever way you want to see it).
  6. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall). We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway. Hang on a second, is the argument that Ashley's only in it for the money and that's it, or that we're giving players away for nowt now? Barton's was a punishment for how he acted the t*** to his employers in public. Apart from that, we've never just given anyone away. Stupid argument tbh. He's a high wage earner, he's now off the payroll. This wasn't punishment to Barton in any way shaoe or form, quite the opposite infact, it gave him freedom to do what he wanted a year before his contract ran out. Jeez are u joey barton in disguise? The guy has only turned up after years of fighting his inner deacons. Come on then hopperz, explain to me how Joey has been 'punished' in this whole farce? He's gotten exactly what he wanted, a decent contract to see out his career. But aye, I must be Joey Barton if I think giving away players for free for saying s*** on twitter is a bit extreme. You are forgetting his history though. Would be different if it was a bigger team but QPR. P.s. spell my name right I havn't forgotten his history, i'm just not closed minded enough to still judge him on it. He's seemingly improved as a person over the past few years, he's still a gobby cunt with an ego, but he's put a lot of things right. And who has come in for him doesn't matter, i've seen with my own eyes what he brings to us last season, the fact a Champions League club havn't come in for him does not change that, giving him away for nothing is utterly ridiculous.
  7. There is only one positive side and thats the Barton flying circus that comes with his drama queen antics. Football side of it we have lost out big time, no doubt about that. I liked the Joey Barton drama tbh, withought this and the rest of the farcical s**** that goes on we'd just be a run of the mill mid table side, like Villa or Bolton. Boring as f***. I think a lot of people are starting to come round to Barton aswel tbh, the level headed people who aren't still holding a grudge about him sparking some kid out in Liverpool, anyway. I couldn't careless about his punch ups, my problem with Joey is/was, we have turned into Joey Barton United, its all about him, the captaincy, whoever the manager picks you respect it, you dont stamp your feet, same thing with the set pieces, its always about him and not the team for all his its about the team statements, i dont doubt he loved the team but his longing to be centre attention did/does drag a bit. I agree in a way, although I would argue that the whole 'Barton show' was a media created thing, he wasn't THAT bad. Barton is a character, and everything he does/says can be turned into a story. There are probably a lot of players who argue over set pieces, write shite on twitter ect, but when Barton does it some random journo will write an article on it. I'll miss him as a player first an pd foremost though, but theres definatly a part of me that had a massive man crush on the bloke because of his 'controvertial' attictude.
  8. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall). We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway. Hang on a second, is the argument that Ashley's only in it for the money and that's it, or that we're giving players away for nowt now? Barton's was a punishment for how he acted the t*** to his employers in public. Apart from that, we've never just given anyone away. Stupid argument tbh. He's a high wage earner, he's now off the payroll. This wasn't punishment to Barton in any way shaoe or form, quite the opposite infact, it gave him freedom to do what he wanted a year before his contract ran out. Jeez are u joey barton in disguise? The guy has only turned up after years of fighting his inner deacons. Come on then hopperz, explain to me how Joey has been 'punished' in this whole farce? He's gotten exactly what he wanted, a decent contract to see out his career. But aye, I must be Joey Barton if I think giving away players for free for saying shit on twitter is a bit extreme.
  9. There is only one positive side and thats the Barton flying circus that comes with his drama queen antics. Football side of it we have lost out big time, no doubt about that. I liked the Joey Barton drama tbh, withought this and the rest of the farcical shite that goes on we'd just be a run of the mill mid table side, like Villa or Bolton. Boring as fuck. I think a lot of people are starting to come round to Barton aswel tbh, the level headed people who aren't still holding a grudge about him sparking some kid out in Liverpool, anyway.
  10. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall). We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway. Hang on a second, is the argument that Ashley's only in it for the money and that's it, or that we're giving players away for nowt now? Barton's was a punishment for how he acted the twat to his employers in public. Apart from that, we've never just given anyone away. Stupid argument tbh. He's a high wage earner, he's now off the payroll. This wasn't punishment to Barton in any way shaoe or form, quite the opposite infact, it gave him freedom to do what he wanted a year before his contract ran out.
  11. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Actualy f*** it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall). We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway. Would you feel better if i bought you an ice cream, you sound like you need a cuddle. If it sounds like I need a cuddle then why are you offering Ice Cream? I'd take a cuddle like, if you're offering.
  12. We've actualy just given away a player for free man, one of our best performers last season (and some would argue the best, he certainly wasn't far off), how are people kidding themselves that there was some actual possotive side to this decision
  13. Who do we have to replace him on the right hand side of midfield? Because Cabaye can't play there. Raylor is now in left defence, Obertan hasn't looked that comfortable in RM and f*** knows where Marveaux is. Gosling? Actualy fuck it, we might aswell give Coloccini to Sevilla, Tiote to Chelsea, and Jonas to some Spanish twats (for free ofcourse, we wouldn't want to gain anything from losing our best players afterall). We have Williamson, Guthrie and Ferguson to fit right in, so we don't need them anyway.
  14. If he buys a player that improves the side, i'd applaud him. If he gives a first team player away for nothing, i'll call him a cunt.
  15. If we had kept Carroll, Enrique and Barton we'd be a CB and a RB from having a great squad. It's fucking depressing to watch the squad get ripped apart with no real intent of ever fixing, and more importantly, improving the damage. You don't have to be a genius to see why people are pissed off about this like.
  16. Losing the biggest trouble maker in NUFC history at the same time. I think Duncan Ferguson left a fair few years back? Went to Everton of something.
  17. Losing our best right-mid on a free to fucking QPR has got to be a low point in the clubs history like. Ashley realy is such a diabolical human being.
  18. Sewelly's post on the state of the current league is spot on like, it's fucking depressing as hell to be stuck amongst the shite.
  19. I understand the point. And ith all things equal this would be the case however When the sums of money involved are completely contrasting (NUFC low - WH/QPR high) there really isnt a decision to make. Personal and financial security to live the life they want to lead comes first Barton and Nolan could retire tomorrow and both be financially secure forever. They have a financial/life plan that requires them to earn as much as possible before they retire 33/34 They will have massive outgoings Dont be so naive It is on a different level to what you or me can understand Barton earns more in 60 weeks at NUFC (no including any boot deals ect.) than I will in 60 years. It can't be that bad... But it's all relative. Barton will wamt to make as little sacrifices as possible aft he retires for him and his family, and continue living the life he has now. Anyone would feel the same tbh. The same Barton that yesterday stated he'll downsize his car to a Prius? So he's been efficient. Still doesn't change the fact he will want to be as finantialy secure as possible after retirement, infact it sort of supports the idea.
  20. I understand the point. And ith all things equal this would be the case however When the sums of money involved are completely contrasting (NUFC low - WH/QPR high) there really isnt a decision to make. Personal and financial security to live the life they want to lead comes first Barton and Nolan could retire tomorrow and both be financially secure forever. They have a financial/life plan that requires them to earn as much as possible before they retire 33/34 They will have massive outgoings Dont be so naive It is on a different level to what you or me can understand Barton earns more in 60 weeks at NUFC (no including any boot deals ect.) than I will in 60 years. It can't be that bad... But it's all relative. Barton will wamt to make as little sacrifices as possible aft he retires for him and his family, and continue living the life he has now. Anyone would feel the same tbh.
  21. His baggage is hardly a burden on us now though. And we'll not replace him on a free thats for sure. Really so his Twitter statements aren't an issue then? Or the controversy in the arsenal game where his actions got the club fined? If he does sign for them I am really looking forward to his tweets regarding our club His twitter statements were hardly damaging to the club, Mike Ashley's stupid idea of transfer listing him for free however is. And the club was fined (did we win the appeal or not?) because other players got involved, not because Joey Barton picked a player up by his shirt. It's a bit shady when folk are slamming him for a yellow card offence during a game like. That last bit is only your opinion. Graham poll said he would have sent him off for it. Is he shady too then? It was also the opinion of the officials who officiated the game too, which counts more than the views of some retired referee who cannot count.
  22. His baggage is hardly a burden on us now though. And we'll not replace him on a free thats for sure. Really so his Twitter statements aren't an issue then? Or the controversy in the arsenal game where his actions got the club fined? If he does sign for them I am really looking forward to his tweets regarding our club His twitter statements were hardly damaging to the club, Mike Ashley's stupid idea of transfer listing him for free however is. And the club was fined (did we win the appeal or not?) because other players got involved, not because Joey Barton picked a player up by his shirt. It's a bit shady when folk are slamming him for a yellow card offence during a game like.
  23. still cannot get over how ridiculously stupid and petty it is to actively try and give away a first team player for free.
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