Hanshithispantz

No some people just don't live in some kind of fantasy land and understand that all of these protests are absolutely pointless and tbf just make us look thick as fuck. Support the team, tell Ashley he's a cunt if needs be, but the last thing we need is players hiding on the pitch because the crowd is getting on everyones back or non-existant. We need to try and come out stronger, not feed the fire.

fucking pointless and it'll only dammage us further. look at 2 seasons ago man, we've just got to accept it, sadly enough.

Looking at the favourites for the job just fucking depresses me to be fair.

This was a little winless blip we were on, but any sane bloke could see that with 5 first teamers out it would be difficult, and you only need to look at our performances throught the season to see that Christ clearly knew what he was doing.

Perhaps he raped someone in that "hour long dressing room talk" after the match there talking about, it's the only explanation to be honest. My bets on lil Wayne

what a fucking stupid decision, absolutely silly.

Last 4 games we've been Barton-less, and in 3 of them we've uncharicteristicly sat back for long periods of time and allowed the opposision to attack us (Chelsea is understandable, but Bolton & WBA we realy should be taking the game to). Coincidence or not I don't know, but we've definatly played some of the worst football all season the past few games for whatever reason. With Nolan, Barton & Tiote in the side something seems to click, whatever it is I don't think anyone knows, but we're definatly a better side when they are all on the pitch, and the performances prove that.

We have a 100% record in games where Barton, Nolan and Tiote have all played the full 90 minutes

Against Liverpool he'll recieve a certain yello/red and be out for another 1-3 games, pretty much garenteed tbh.

He's started one league game and one cup game before today. yeah and he looked good, which is what i'm judging him on...

Sol has been decent to be fair thi season when he's covered bar today, in which admitedly he was woeful. Certainly wouldn't say he's passed it yet, not the player he was by a long shot mind.

With Nolan, Barton & Smith/Tiote (the latter especialy as opposed to Smith) in the same midfield we were able to pretty much bully the opposision's midfield and we also had the quality to keep the ball too, we realy lack that withought Barton, Nolan & Tiote together and I think our recent posesion stats would probably back me up. We've been pretty light in the physical department recently in the centre which was one of our biggest strenghs imo

Aye, everyonecomplaned that we never created enough, which to be fair they had a point. In the earlier parts of this season though, playing 4-4-2 or 4-5-1 we never had a truly bad game even when we were beaten, recently though we've had a couple of absolute stinkers which I think says more about our squad depth than it does our tactics.

Coloccini and Williamson let 5 goals in the last time they played and both received 3 match bans, that's s*** form. The defence isn't always the reason that we let in goals, our midfield was s*** in both games. This, we allowed both Bolton and WBA far too much time on the ball, I dare not even look at the possesion stats today.

Barton in the centre tends to stay to deep for me, when he's out wide he seems get involved much more and infact in the games he's played out there has pretty much bossed th midfield (he certainly did against the Mackums and Arsenal)

Nolan has played in most of our poor games, holding today up as a reason to play him doesn't stand up when our heaviest defeat of the season was with him in the team. Nolan as his worst is almost as bad as Guthrie was today as in both cases we play with a man down. I understand that statement is subjective and either of us could be right or it could be somewhere in between. Im not claiming the result today would be any differant with him in the side dont get me wrong, I just think his weaknesses are over analysed and his qualities completely ignored by most unless he scores (in which case the forum goes into overload as to how he is indespeniable to the team )

He was caught in possession because he had nobody moving and creating the space he was looking for. Thats the thing though, Guthrie gets caught in posession because he's s***, Tiote gets caught in possesion because everyone else is s*** Tiote for me needs to stop turning into his blindspots too often as he has lost posesion a few times in recent weeks because of it, and eventualy players will cotton on and purposely charge him from behind whenever he wins the ball in the hope he turns the ball towards them. He is absolutely brilliant at what he does, but when we are playing s*** and underpressure like today he is always more likely to be pressured into giving it away cheeply.

I agree, hence how I think it's a bit cliche when it gets tossed about, I have no doubt he does have an effect on the team like but not to the extent that they somehow fold withought his valliant presence amongst them.

He is when he doesn't score. Not realy like, he's not the best on the ball and his array of passing is nowt to be envious of but he offers a bit of bite in the middle (a lot more than Guthrie has shown recently) and he always offers top support for Carroll. I don't think it's any coincidence that when Nolan plays Carroll seems x10 the player he does when he's not. His presence on the pitch (both vocaly and physicaly) seems cliche but it cannot go unoticed, he definatly is the type of charicter that can boost a team low on morale. Obviosly there are a lot of cracks there that are papered over when he gets on the scoresheet, but they aren't as bad as people tend to make out when he doesn't.

I would say Nolan was the most underated player to be honest, he's no where near as inept as people on here like to make out.

I'm willing to wager that he does that because there's jack-all movement around him. I'm also willing to wager that he'd prefer to be sitting with spelks in his arse from the Twente bench than play alongside Puffrie again. Simply awful

Was justabout to post the exact same thing Cajun, Chelsea are also proving how difficult it can be with key players missing.

Probably faked tbh, I know I would have

Although he was poor today he was made to look even worse by the fact Tiote doesn't get forward either (but he has an excuse as it's he's job not to), we we're effectively playing with 2 deep lying midfielders who both prefer to play the simple pass and lack the ability to split a defence open (ala Barton). I know he's a better payer than that as i've seen it with my own eyes, but if he keeps this up then I echo others sentiments, get rid.

At the very least Nolan would have pressed the ball and atleast tried to move forwards, the first half especialy we just let WBA have the ball and do whatever the pleased with it, it was embaracing to watch.