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His free kick conversion rate must be pretty ridiculous, anywhere within about 30 yards of goal he's a machine.

His passing has generally been good this season.

MOTM

He's such a twat

That was the worst performance he's put in all season like, his passing was shameful Cool as fuck for the goal though.

Me too. Reminds me of this lot: that's great

Rocking that bowl cut

what a fucking mong

Love that after reading that, one of the related articles underneath is: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2288940/Cuneyt-Cakir-pictured-Referee-sent-Manchester-Uniteds-Nani-Real-Madrid.html?ICO=most_read_module Even pointing out that he FOLLOWS RONALDO AND REAL MADRID ON TWITTER. That heinous bastard. "Best of friends: Cakir's Twitter page shows that he follows Real Madrid and their star man Cristiano Ronaldo" :lol:

I'm I in the fucking Twilight Zone or something here. Genuinely have no idea what's going on.

I'm not sure why you included alcoholic into the insult like?

I agree with that, when you used the Arbeloa comparison i got a bit confused because he can't attack Pretty sure if a RB who do what Marcelo or Coentrao do came available they would snap him up pretty quickly. He didn't though until that post Of course a fullback should be able to defend ffs, nobody is suggesting that you can just stick a right forward at right back and expect him to do a job If all a fullback can do is defend and then hoof the ball, he's a poor fullback. If all a fullback can do is attack but cannot defend in any shape of form, he's a winger... Any half decent fullback should be able to both attack and defend effectively, both are equally as important to the side as the other.

Yes it is important to attack. My point is, fundamentally a fullback must be able to defend. When they're young they must work hard on this side of the game if it does not come naturally. Before SAF trusted that Rafael could defend at the level needed, he would play CB's in that position in big games. Madrid could easily play an attacking midfielder at RB. A Valencia type player who they could shoe-horn at RB but no, until they can find the full package - they are going with the defender first. So your point is that teams will play a defensive player at fullback instead of a midfielder during an injury crisis, not that a fullbacks is 50-50 attack and defend?

The current fullbacks for the top 7 sides in the Premiership... Evra, Rafael, Zabaleta, Clichy, Walker, Ekotto, Ivanovic, Cole, Sagna, Monreal, Baines, Coleman, Johnson, Enrique You could say 3, at a push 4 of those players are selected for their defensive ability.

None of those players are poor going forward though so it's pretty irrelevant. The wouldn't want to play a Cicinho just as they wouldn't want to play a Tony Hibbert (I know which one they would choose given the choice though). Arguably the best fullbacks in the world at the minute are hardly noted for their defensive ability, are they?

It's daft to suggest that a fullback is either 50-50 defence/attack OR should be picked picked primarily for defensive qualities. It depends entirely on the team and their style of play. Ultimately though any side looking to play football on the front foot would take a full back who can attack over one who can defend (a modicum of defensive ability is obviously a given).

Ajax.

I don't know about PSV, but are Michu and Suarez really "false number 9s"? I don't know the exact terminology tbh, but neither of them play the same role that Messi does for Barcelona. They're an exception to the role as a whole though.

fair play like

Aye, I had literally no confidence in him after Krul's injury which seems daft now. My mind still isn't at ease with Krul out though.

Reminded me of this post

Yeah, he made a few mistakes in the Swansea game but I think a lot of that was down to communication, Elliott and the defence just didn't seem on the same wave length.

Wingers - like Marveaux - are though. Marveaux isn't a winger. Yes, he is. Nope. Number 10 or as part of a central 3. He's a winger who plays out wide, on the wing, and is very average at it. You're thinking of Obertan or something mate. Probably Beausejour as I have a feeling you watching an entirely different side all together. No as Obertan is f***ing s***, not average. You're watching Wigan then mate. Good one bud. I'm not even joking, for someone to come to the conclusion that Marveaux is a winger playing on the wing they certainly haven't been watching Newcastle.

Wingers - like Marveaux - are though. Marveaux isn't a winger. Yes, he is. Nope. Number 10 or as part of a central 3. He's a winger who plays out wide, on the wing, and is very average at it. You're thinking of Obertan or something mate. Probably Beausejour as I have a feeling you watching an entirely different side all together. No as Obertan is fucking shit, not average. You're watching Wigan then mate.

Wingers - like Marveaux - are though. Marveaux isn't a winger. Yes, he is. Nope. Number 10 or as part of a central 3. He's a winger who plays out wide, on the wing, and is very average at it. You're thinking of Obertan or something mate. Probably Beausejour as I have a feeling you watching an entirely different side all together.