Lush Vlad

Genuinely no idea who you’re referring to?!

Last man is irrelevant. He cuts it back and if Mepham misses him. He then has a touch and he is in on goal slap bang in the middle of the box. Clearly denying a goalscoring opportunity. 10 v 10 now. More brain dead defending.

Luke O’Nien was horrendous for the red card. Is he still loved by their fans? Yet another hatchet man, clogger that probably makes their best XI of the last 30 years or so

Switched over to the red and white stripes derby. Seen 3-4 awful tackles in less than 5 minutes like going back in time. A bit like going to sunderland.

Lovely goal from Brighton. Mitoma header from a Lamptey cross. Slack defending from Southampton as per usual.

If he’s actually back training with the first team and not just running about with them. I’d be very surprised if he is still another 3 months away.

I’d love to see Bruno further up. Mad that he did it when we had Shelvey. Who is even slower than Bruno. But it now feels like Howe wants athletes as his two ‘8’s’. Can cover wide, box to box with a lot of recovery runs like Joelinton and Longstaff make, able to consistently make those under/overlapping runs out wide. For all his slowness. Bruno actually has a great engine and does get around the pitch. I really would like to see him further forward now. It’s becoming a real problem our lack of creativity and he can definitely do a job there. I think he even sort of half complained about playing 6 (still should be 4 IMO) not long into his first full season and that he sees himself as an 8. We would lose something in our build up. But that has never been great, anyway. What with it seemingly reliant on just ‘get it to Bruno’. Despite how many players are marking him. If that fails. Then hit a cross field pass to Big Joe. Say Joelinton plays right again, Bruno plays RCM and Tino is at RB. That is more than solid enough down that side. The issue then is who plays deepest. As we only really have Tonali capable of playing there. Even then, he is very different to Bruno on the ball. But he would provide more legs and cover in that deep role. I think he started that position, too. Albeit in a slower league.

The 1-0 loss on Boxing Day and one of the worst attacking performances seen from us in the last 20 odd years? If so, I was right near you.

Got linked with a Bournemouth player by..*checks notes…. Kurt Leyland from Newcastle World. I’m embarrassed for him, too.

Is that right? I know plenty of Liverpool fans (who doesn't) and they've always said he's done really well when called upon. There was one spell where he had a couple of howlers close together that may have skewed opinion, from memory. But all keepers make howlers. Alisson is the best around, I think and even he has made some ricks the last couple of years.

If Hudson from Aliens was a football fan.

I was more disagreeing with you saying he's a far better finisher than anyone we have and vital to the team. I disagree with both points. Agree on Gordon. He never has been a good finisher. A lot of blocked shots and safe finishes where he just wants to hit the target. Not having that about Isak, mind. Even if he is going through a bit of a lean patch for us, with some big misses fresh in the memory. He is an elite level striker.

Far better at finishing than Isak? I know absence makes the heart grow fonder and all that. But fucking hell Also. He hasn't been vital to the team for a long while as the fucker is never fit. Even ignoring injuries. He couldn't play up top on his own regularly in this current version of NUFC IMO. I know Isak has missed some big chances this season and I'm not sure he is ever going to be an automatic finisher like a Haaland, Kane or Lewandowski. But then how many players are? Plenty of big strikers miss say 1-2 chances a game, then get another and score. How many 'big' chances are we creating for Isak a game? I feel like his misses are being magnified because they look glaring in isolation and they're currently costing us points.

He was in the training pics. Not even sure he is/was injured. Looked more like a heavy impact injury and maybe just went a bit stiff at HT. He wasn't having a good game anyway and we needed a goal. So could have just been that. He does bring quite a few intangibles though and we do seem a more balanced team with him in it somehow. Bruno and Isak were not in the training photos, mind..............

Perhaps a bit strong, sorry But you clearly did move the goalposts. No plan B, then you say we just switched players and no formation change against West Ham, which doesn't constitute a plan B. When that just quite clearly isn't true if you watched the game for more than 5 minutes second half. Then it's not about formation change, but something else like how we press. Which might also fall under your categorisation of tweaks to the original formation. Which is still just plan A based on what you've posted further back. Fair enough if you think that way. I just think there are plenty of posters on here who don't want Howe to succeed and revel in a bad performance/result and are very vocal on here after a defeat. As they clearly want him gone. That is how your posts have often come across to me.

Hardly a radical change? In the hunt for goals. We lost a load of control in the middle, we were a lot weaker off the ball and defensively down the wings with Barnes and Murphy in place of Joelinton and Gordon, we had 2 strikers on the pitch, a rarity for us. We were chucking in loads of early crosses, again, a rarity for us. We were shit at all of the above but you're massively moving the goalposts to fit you clear agenda against Howe, amidst some thinly veiled 'I still really like him' posts.

How many managers have a genuine 'plan B' that they can just pivot to mid-game and often brings about changes? Repeating myself, but I believe Klopp is on record saying something like 'if Plan A isn't working, we need to work harder.' If you whole philosophy is about a certain style and you drill your players week in week out to implement it successfully. Then you surely have belief in said system and that is what you stick with? Obviously there are late changes in games that everyone still goes for. Big CB up top to win headers, 3 at the back as you're chasing a goal with not long left. But it would make more sense to me to fine tune your Plan A and try to tweak it that way. We should have done that against West Ham. We seemed so desperate to change it quickly and get a goal back. I feel like we also went a bit gung ho against Milan too early. Seeing as the CL games were referenced earlier.

Yeah. Not sure how you can watch that game and say it was just different players. We went to a different system a couple of times second half. Towards the end it was basically get it to Murphy and whip it into the box at every opportunity. Whether you think it was a shit tactic and formation change (I do) or not is a different matter. We’ve also made in-game tweaks and changes this season that have won us games. So saying we have no plan B is nonsense.

Quite a lot of that first paragraph is purely subjective or you can counter them fairly easily, can you not? I mean, I think I would need to be playing devil's advocate for some points, as I agree with some of it. But if you really believe all of that and like there aren't genuine reasons or excuses behind each issue you've raised. Then we might as well sack him today.

It makes me feel better about my half pissed, rage induced posts after a defeat, mind. As I often think I’ve gone a bit overboard. Then I read the rest of the forum and realise I come across as a happy clapping Eddie fan boy in comparison

Left footed and can play off the right, I think? Hardly the transformative right winger we need though

You’d imagine Alisson will be off somewhere for a big payday. Had his injury troubles, too. So Liverpool might be keen to move him on because of that. Kelleher is clearly too good to continue as a number 2. But they just spent £30m or whatever it was on Marmaduke. So I’m assuming the plan is for him to be the starter. If Kelleher does leave as he wants to be number 1 somewhere. I think he’d cost a lot. What do people think in today’s market and due to his worth to Liverpool. £20-30m? More?! I think he’d have a few suitors. He looks absolutely quality.

Seems ridiculous to type it out when you look at his career and his numbers. But Mbappe really does seem overrated compared to the small handful of elite players you would be comparing him to in recent years. I regularly watch him and just wonder what it is he’s meant to bring other than mad pace? He never does any work off the ball or defensively. Which is fine to a point if your attacking output is always that good. But it is often lacking. Could it be a case of too much too young and it has fucked him mentally and physically? As the last year or so at PSG and now at RM. He doesn’t seem anything like the player that conquered the world with France.

McManaman talking about no shots on target for RM whilst they discuss the penalty that was saved. Pretty sure Diaz had a shot on target earlier and all.

Jesus