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I wouldn't say that - being told that all of the money brought in from a windfall transfer would be re-invested from day one, losing more players than the number coming in, having transfer fees and wages from outgoing players AT LEAST covering incoming transfers, spending less than last years summer transfers as a newly promoted team where we at least marinally built up the squad. When we bought in Bowyer it wasn't great but we hadn't finished four points away from relegation the season before , and sure we sold Woodgate to have lesser players but now we still have and still have Perter f***ing Lovenkrands playing and Alan Smith being a viable substitute in the managers eyes when they wouldn't get into any other Premier League teams 25 man squad. Oh, but we have a 21 man squad, that includes Alan Smith, Peter Lovenkrands, James Perch and Ryan Taylor - not really players you want to rely on week after week but will have to at least once this season. Seems like an absolute f***ing abortion of a transsfer window to me. come on , at least give him a break , he scored 2 goals already this season

We've got it plastered all over the stadium and they're not our sponsors. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather not have it but I don't see it as a huge issue. Are Sports Direct not a sponsor in some small way? I know we have their logos on the player interview backgrounds along with Puma and Northern Rock. Even if they're not there's not much of a distinction between a sponsor and a company owned by the owner seeing as he's put his own money into the club. And no, I'm not an Ashley apologist in any way I just don't think that this in isolation is a big issue. Let's face it if Ashley had just gone out and spent £200m during the close season and we were challenging for the top 4 I doubt anyone would be bothered about him changing the sign. probably, but he doesn't and never will.

That is half right. He also paid 140m in CASH to Shepherd and the Halls for the club, so even if his initial loan is paid back through profits that the club makes, there is still the initial capital cost of 140m. I think his total investment in the club is around 280m. If he makes a 40m profit for the past year and uses that to reduce the debt, then his net investment in the club will still be north of 200m, which means that if he sells for anything less than that, he'll have made a loss. And for what it's worth, when you invest almost 300m in anything, you expect returns every year. He's obviously not had any return on his investment over the past 4 years, so there is an opportunity cost to factor into it. A rough estimate of his investment so far is probably around 350m (without taking into account last year's profits). Ashley borrow 140m ---> SJH pay 140m ----> Shepherd club owe 140m ---> SJH owe 140m-----> Ashley i think that's the case in the above scenario, i had no idea at all why you have the amount of 280m

Because if he sells the club for 150 million, its a profit Well, yeah, but only 12m. And so what?

James Perch - amazingly enough, I think he'll stay. :lol:

Pretty much. Mike loans the money to SJH Ltd, who actually buy the club. Now this loan has been added onto the club's debt, to be paid back to Mike. so Ashley didn't spend a penny at all and got himself Newcastle United? this is getting better, is this even legalize?

Maiga , Roux , Pieters , Ridgewell , Erdinc , Cisse ,Cissokho are all shit footballers, we don't need them .

Boo hoo you spoiled child. They say it takes a bigger man to walk away. Dont see why anyone should be abused for not wanting to let Ashley rub s*** in his face each week under the pretence of 'supporting the team' am i the only one who had more interest to see Roger's avatar than his posts? I imagine a fair few do to be honest. Do you have a worthwhile opinion on the post for once? cool mate, not trying to criticize your posts at all , it's just your avatar is too attractive

Boo hoo you spoiled child. They say it takes a bigger man to walk away. Dont see why anyone should be abused for not wanting to let Ashley rub s*** in his face each week under the pretence of 'supporting the team' am i the only one who had more interest to see Roger's avatar than his posts?

pretty sure it's just some maintenance work, even cunt like Ashley wouldnt dare to replace it with other , don't him?

if you genuinely think Ba is a better player than Carroll , i've got nothing to say anymore. mind you , form is temporary class is permanent Doesn't that completely negate your argument given that Ba has been an absolutely lethal striker for 6 years where as Carroll has had 6 prolific months at the top level and 6 which where very hit and miss? Ba never play top level football until Hoffenheim promoted 3 years ago ,never scored more than 15 goals a season, and i don't think he will improve anymore, while Carroll show he's a up and rising talent with his 6 months EPL performance , that's what i think so whats his record at the top level only ? He won't answer that, fact is Ba has scored a lot of goals at every level he has played in. It wasn't that long ago when a few were saying "£4m for Carroll from Stoke? f*** yeah!?". The argument is so flawed. wasn't around just now got this from wiki Hoffenheim 08-09 35(14) 09-10 18(5) 10-11 20(9) west ham 10-11 13(7) newcastle 11-12 3(0) i'm not saying Ba is a shit striker , but i just think Carroll will be better than him

totally agreed

if you genuinely think Ba is a better player than Carroll , i've got nothing to say anymore. mind you , form is temporary class is permanent Doesn't that completely negate your argument given that Ba has been an absolutely lethal striker for 6 years where as Carroll has had 6 prolific months at the top level and 6 which where very hit and miss? Ba never play top level football until Hoffenheim promoted 3 years ago ,never scored more than 15 goals a season, and i don't think he will improve anymore, while Carroll show he's a up and rising talent with his 6 months EPL performance , that's what i think

if you genuinely think Ba is a better player than Carroll , i've got nothing to say anymore. mind you , form is temporary class is permanent

oh joey you thick f***, do you think money only comes from transfers, if the club you professed to love made a 1mill profit on transfers while losing 10mill elsewhere you's still only see the 1mill profit wouldn't you ? he did say from profit from transfer , and it's true that we had made profit from transfer!!!!! Well obviously, but he's ignoring the wider financial situation. What's the problem with making a profit on transfers if the rest of the club is making a loss? It all comes off the bottom line. you had to worry about it for sure, if you making profit from transfer consistently , it means you are selling your first team players to other and replace it with cheaper option. so looking at our squad , Tiote, Colo , even Cabaye would be the next to go for the next transfer profit made Sense of irony that you list two of our cheaper options in our 3 best players like. Making profit doesn't necessarily mean you're signing worse playersm as we've proven. aye, but if you are consistently selling your 1st choice, are you sure you going to replace it with a better player everytime? Done us no harm whatsoever so far. striker?

oh joey you thick f***, do you think money only comes from transfers, if the club you professed to love made a 1mill profit on transfers while losing 10mill elsewhere you's still only see the 1mill profit wouldn't you ? he did say from profit from transfer , and it's true that we had made profit from transfer!!!!! Well obviously, but he's ignoring the wider financial situation. What's the problem with making a profit on transfers if the rest of the club is making a loss? It all comes off the bottom line. you had to worry about it for sure, if you making profit from transfer consistently , it means you are selling your first team players to other and replace it with cheaper option. so looking at our squad , Tiote, Colo , even Cabaye would be the next to go for the next transfer profit made Sense of irony that you list two of our cheaper options in our 3 best players like. Making profit doesn't necessarily mean you're signing worse playersm as we've proven. aye, but if you are consistently selling your 1st choice, are you sure you going to replace it with a better player everytime?

oh joey you thick f***, do you think money only comes from transfers, if the club you professed to love made a 1mill profit on transfers while losing 10mill elsewhere you's still only see the 1mill profit wouldn't you ? he did say from profit from transfer , and it's true that we had made profit from transfer!!!!! Well obviously, but he's ignoring the wider financial situation. What's the problem with making a profit on transfers if the rest of the club is making a loss? It all comes off the bottom line. you had to worry about it for sure, if you making profit from transfer consistently , it means you are selling your first team players to other and replace it with cheaper option. so looking at our squad , Tiote, Colo , even Cabaye would be the next to go for the next transfer profit made

oh joey you thick f***, do you think money only comes from transfers, if the club you professed to love made a 1mill profit on transfers while losing 10mill elsewhere you's still only see the 1mill profit wouldn't you ? he did say profit from transfer , and it's true that we had made profit from transfer!!!!!

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