Tiresias

Gah yeah, frustrating.

Yeah we've got worse over the last bit, Tiote is trying to be a bit overambitious with his passes and needs to keep possession

We're about even really, both have had dangerous moments

Plenty of time to get back into it.

BALLS.

Oh my, Vuckic, that was lovely. LOVELY.

Santon

They're getting some love down the right, come on Simpson prove you're worth getting upset about you buggering off over

Obertan just did a ball so bad that the ref assumed it must have hit a west brom player and gave a corner

kicked the ball out immediately as Reid was in obvious horrible pain, Hodgson came out to shake his hand lol

classy

This is a new low.

No absolutely not, you can never know intent and if you base decisions on it, it would limit the ability of the FA to crack down on Racism. Saying something that sounds an awful lot like a racist word, so much so that the victim doesn't hear anything else, is stupid.

We won't get any corners

I dont think its even performance based, he just doesnt see Ben Arfa as a winger. For pardew it will be Best v Ben Arfa & best wins that battle atm on recent performances. I get that, but it's not like pushing players who want to play centrally out wide to accomodate other players isn't common. Even Messi had to make do on the wing for a while.

It doesn't matter what the meaning in Uruguay is. He should know it's offensive here, and ignorance is not an excuse. This charge is not looking into the soul of Suarez and discovering if he is a racist, it's impossible to detirmine heartfelt prejudice, it is that he did something racist on the pitch.

Oh come on Pardew have a little faith and play Ben Arfa, his performances were by no means poor enough to bench him and leave Obertan on, starting to feel his refusal to push him wide is just now being stubborn for the sake of it

Ban the entire squad for 8 games! He really won't be 'walking alone'

I dunno the daily mail slagging them off kind of makes me want to like them

John Terry apparently is refusing to voluntarily step down as England captain, shouldn't be an issue I don't think...as he shouldn't be in the squad anyway

What's really bothering me is the calls from people like Gus Poyet that the ban is 'excessive', I can understand in a way arguing about whether he's guilty or not, but if you're arguing about the punishment you are assuming he is guilty. And 8 Games for racist abuse is in no way excessive.

He's gone

Terry should be banned just for saying "i've got loads of black mates", regardless of whatever he said on the pitch

http://www.surrealfootball.com/2011/12/21/luis-suarez-the-verdict/ This article sums it all up well