Sean

IF his info has come from Ashley, would that not be a red flag to anyone? If Ashley wanted to sell to PCP and a concrete deal was done, he wouldn't be putting out noise regarding a deadline. He would have no reason to. He would simply talk to PCP and give them an extra week if PL checks are taking longer than expected. If Luke's info has come from Ashleys camp, it would appear as if he is preparing to be a cunt again if he gets the chance (ie this rumoured exclusivity period ends). He could be making it all up for the attention granted. Hopefully it turns out to be the second option.

Is there any chance of NUST postponing this discussion about our new owners until we have been sold? geordie_b[/member] mentioned the organisers were expecting the sale to be complete before Monday. I know theres a possibility it could be announced Monday, but if not this just seems premature. Theres no real rush for this to take place surely?

And the dozens of other fakeovers / failed takeovers.

A good time for such a discussion would be when we have been sold, rather than beforehand. It's absolutely pointless unless the sale goes through.

It's no wonder some people see him as a fans representative with the amount of attention people give him. Ignore the cunt ffs.

Makes no difference. There isn't anyone else waiting in the wings. Unfortunately that didn't stop Ashley calling her a time waster 2 1/2 years ago though.

So there is not even a 0.001% chance that it could fall through? OK then. This is exceedingly tedious. Yes it's exceedingly tedious that you get jumped on for daring to suggest this isn't all done and dusted already.

It would be more Newcastle United to announce the sale was off on a weekend when people least expect it. This. The most Newcastle United thing would be for Ashley to announce he is staying. Leaving us all looking like the biggest fools in world football. The only way he is staying is if the Premier League knock the takeover back or if the remaining amount is not paid into his account. He would be facing a massive lawsuit if he 'announced' he is staying when a legal agreement is in place. OK I'll entertain you..show me actual evidence that a legal agreement for the sale is in place that he can't back out of. The document uploaded to companies house does not prove a sale is agreed with no way for him to back out. We are led to believe he can't back out by the same press that has led us to believe he has been about to sell for 12 years. But I haven't seen irrefutable proof of this, and neither have you. What proof can we possibly provide? The actual SPA documentation showing Mike Ashley cannot pull out? Russel's teapot here - the burden of proof is on you. After failed takeover after failed takeover, it would be reasonable to wait for irrefutable proof before declaring that we are sold. I also haven't stated that there Ashley can back out, just that it would be sensible to wait and see how this all plays out. It's Godzilla who is convinced of something he can't prove...reminds me of BZG last year now come to think of it. The fact is none of us know whether it's legally binding for Ashley to be forced to sell or not. But oh no... You are an absolute clown Well if you weren't a clown we would already be owned by BZG...remember falling for that one? Show me where it is legally binding...oh you can't, so you had to attack the poster. Show me where it's not then and the Premier League don't waste 3 weeks going through something when there has been no legal agreement made. As for BZG the bid wasn't accepted nothing more and that's why the Premier League didn't go through the test. You're going to look such a mug in a week or so. f***ing hell man, I have said that we do not know for sure. Which we don't. I'm not claiming either way with certainty like you. It's really not about "looking a mug" as you put it. You've done that repeatedly through failed takeovers already. I am simply saying that we are relying on Staveley's word. Could be right, could be wrong. it could go through next week, it also could fall through. Or have I missed the bit that guarantees a sale goes through and passes the PL tests? I agree on the Premier League test that's one thing nobody can be certain of, but, to imply that a bid hasn't been agreed and Premier League tests are not being carried out is just fantasy. I have not commented on other takeovers apart from the BZG as I though both Staveley (the 1st time) and Kenyon didn't have the funds. I'm not even implying that, just stating that we are relying on other peoples word, however reliable in Caulkins case. Staveley is probably correct in assuming it'll all go through and Ashley can't back out, but for our sakes she had better be certain of all this.

Thanks! I'll pop this here: I'm really jealous of Rangers now...with any luck it'll be us soon. Where's the evidence? Wow, why the fuck does it upset so many of you so badly when someone dares to state the fact that we haven't been sold yet and we haven't seen any evidence that we are guaranteed to be sold? I haven't even said that I don't think we'll be sold ffs, just that theres no guarantee. Just for you though: https://rangers.co.uk/news/headlines/commercial-update/ See, not hard to produce evidence if we have it

So there is not even a 0.001% chance that it could fall through? OK then.

It would be more Newcastle United to announce the sale was off on a weekend when people least expect it. This. The most Newcastle United thing would be for Ashley to announce he is staying. Leaving us all looking like the biggest fools in world football. The only way he is staying is if the Premier League knock the takeover back or if the remaining amount is not paid into his account. He would be facing a massive lawsuit if he 'announced' he is staying when a legal agreement is in place. OK I'll entertain you..show me actual evidence that a legal agreement for the sale is in place that he can't back out of. The document uploaded to companies house does not prove a sale is agreed with no way for him to back out. We are led to believe he can't back out by the same press that has led us to believe he has been about to sell for 12 years. But I haven't seen irrefutable proof of this, and neither have you. What proof can we possibly provide? The actual SPA documentation showing Mike Ashley cannot pull out? Russel's teapot here - the burden of proof is on you. After failed takeover after failed takeover, it would be reasonable to wait for irrefutable proof before declaring that we are sold. I also haven't stated that there Ashley can back out, just that it would be sensible to wait and see how this all plays out. It's Godzilla who is convinced of something he can't prove...reminds me of BZG last year now come to think of it. The fact is none of us know whether it's legally binding for Ashley to be forced to sell or not. But oh no... You are an absolute clown Well if you weren't a clown we would already be owned by BZG...remember falling for that one? Show me where it is legally binding...oh you can't, so you had to attack the poster. Show me where it's not then and the Premier League don't waste 3 weeks going through something when there has been no legal agreement made. As for BZG the bid wasn't accepted nothing more and that's why the Premier League didn't go through the test. You're going to look such a mug in a week or so. Fucking hell man, I have said that we do not know for sure. Which we don't. I'm not claiming either way with certainty like you. It's really not about "looking a mug" as you put it. You've done that repeatedly through failed takeovers already. I am simply saying that we are relying on Staveley's word. Could be right, could be wrong. it could go through next week, it also could fall through. Or have I missed the bit that guarantees a sale goes through and passes the PL tests?

Thanks! I'll pop this here: I'm really jealous of Rangers now...with any luck it'll be us soon.

He's gone: This was the Mike Ashley thread right?

Yes, they replied to Amnesty informing them about the bid. Is the word putative not the thing to take from that? Or by the very fact they replied a good thing? I'm not sure if that's confirmation or not? I'm lost! What is the matter with you all? “Putative” is just a posh twat word for prospective / potential / forthcoming. They cannot say “the Newcastle United takeover” because the takeover hasn’t happened. That, like every letter any big company sends for PR purposes, is drafted by a lawyer. The lawyer’s brief is to ensure that the FA won’t get bitten in the arse / sued. Therefore, the letter exercises caution, because this is a very expensive and complicated thing and there are very strict confidentiality etc rules all parties to it must follow. In all seriousness there must be something better for you available to do. Putative is a posh word for "generally considered or reputed to be" - ie rumours. Lets not just start making things up eh.

We have reasonable evidence to suggest the takeover is happing and is in the final stages. This is from press reports by people like Caulkin who has some sort of line of contact with Staveley, Companies House documents, and of course the Premier League inadvertently confirming they are carrying out D&O tests. As for when it will be finalised, all of this is guess work. The assumption is that it will be announced when the money is transferred over. This isn’t taking into account the possibility that they might try and postpone an announcement to try and prevent people from gathering at SJP or having house parties during lockdown. It is also going by a timeline which is the best case scenario. So last week was when people thought it would have been completed, doing last week would have meant that it was only 2-3 weeks worth of checks, which is optimistic. It also doesn’t take into account that 2 of the days were bank holidays, and of course the process could be slowed by the lack of staff working for both the Premier League and agencies that they may use. This upcoming week represents the final week of how long a test can take during normal times. The tests could be done now, they could be done next week. If they are done next week, then we could still be looking into the week after for the transfer of funds to be completed. You also have to factor in that it is likely that they new owners will want to tell as much staff and players they can before releasing a public statement. We do. The slight concern is we are solely relying on Staveley's confidence. She was very confident 2 and a half years ago and look what happened there. I'm not trying to cause a huge argument here, but until it's done, it's not done. Everyones just assuming it'll go through, but there is a chance we can fuck it up from here. It's NUFC after all.

It would be more Newcastle United to announce the sale was off on a weekend when people least expect it. This. The most Newcastle United thing would be for Ashley to announce he is staying. Leaving us all looking like the biggest fools in world football. The only way he is staying is if the Premier League knock the takeover back or if the remaining amount is not paid into his account. He would be facing a massive lawsuit if he 'announced' he is staying when a legal agreement is in place. OK I'll entertain you..show me actual evidence that a legal agreement for the sale is in place that he can't back out of. The document uploaded to companies house does not prove a sale is agreed with no way for him to back out. We are led to believe he can't back out by the same press that has led us to believe he has been about to sell for 12 years. But I haven't seen irrefutable proof of this, and neither have you. What proof can we possibly provide? The actual SPA documentation showing Mike Ashley cannot pull out? Russel's teapot here - the burden of proof is on you. After failed takeover after failed takeover, it would be reasonable to wait for irrefutable proof before declaring that we are sold. I also haven't stated that there Ashley can back out, just that it would be sensible to wait and see how this all plays out. It's Godzilla who is convinced of something he can't prove...reminds me of BZG last year now come to think of it. The fact is none of us know whether it's legally binding for Ashley to be forced to sell or not. But oh no... You are an absolute clown Well if you weren't a clown we would already be owned by BZG...remember falling for that one? Show me where it is legally binding...oh you can't, so you had to attack the poster.

Yes, they replied to Amnesty informing them about the bid. "Putative" ffs...that isn't confirmation of anything.

It would be more Newcastle United to announce the sale was off on a weekend when people least expect it. This. The most Newcastle United thing would be for Ashley to announce he is staying. Leaving us all looking like the biggest fools in world football. The only way he is staying is if the Premier League knock the takeover back or if the remaining amount is not paid into his account. He would be facing a massive lawsuit if he 'announced' he is staying when a legal agreement is in place. OK I'll entertain you..show me actual evidence that a legal agreement for the sale is in place that he can't back out of. The document uploaded to companies house does not prove a sale is agreed with no way for him to back out. We are led to believe he can't back out by the same press that has led us to believe he has been about to sell for 12 years. But I haven't seen irrefutable proof of this, and neither have you. What proof can we possibly provide? The actual SPA documentation showing Mike Ashley cannot pull out? Russel's teapot here - the burden of proof is on you. After failed takeover after failed takeover, it would be reasonable to wait for irrefutable proof before declaring that we are sold. I also haven't stated that there Ashley can back out, just that it would be sensible to wait and see how this all plays out. It's Godzilla who is convinced of something he can't prove...reminds me of BZG last year now come to think of it. The fact is none of us know whether it's legally binding for Ashley to be forced to sell or not. But oh no... Yes, and I'm asking what proof do you want? The PL have already confirmed that this is being reviewed by them, so we now know an SPA has been agreed - it would not get to the PL had this not been in place. That is a fact. What are you implying with that in bold then? BZG didnt get to the PL stage. The PL openly denied it. The PL used the word "putative", so no they didn't confirm anything. Show me where the PL stated BZG didn't get to owners and directors tests? They didn't get that far, but the pl never "openly denied it". FWIW I'M not saying this isn't going to happen, just waiting for proof rather than getting carried away (as has happened repeatedly in the past). And I'm implying with the bit in bold, that we have no guarantee Ashley is locked into a sale. We are trusting Staveley's word for this (via Caulkin). I accept you don't want to hear all this, but we are not sold yet, and we don't know if Ashley can back out of the sale.

We could be. We could also be talking another 2 years though, however unlikely.

It would be more Newcastle United to announce the sale was off on a weekend when people least expect it. This. The most Newcastle United thing would be for Ashley to announce he is staying. Leaving us all looking like the biggest fools in world football. The only way he is staying is if the Premier League knock the takeover back or if the remaining amount is not paid into his account. He would be facing a massive lawsuit if he 'announced' he is staying when a legal agreement is in place. OK I'll entertain you..show me actual evidence that a legal agreement for the sale is in place that he can't back out of. The document uploaded to companies house does not prove a sale is agreed with no way for him to back out. We are led to believe he can't back out by the same press that has led us to believe he has been about to sell for 12 years. But I haven't seen irrefutable proof of this, and neither have you. What proof can we possibly provide? The actual SPA documentation showing Mike Ashley cannot pull out? Russel's teapot here - the burden of proof is on you. After failed takeover after failed takeover, it would be reasonable to wait for irrefutable proof before declaring that we are sold. I also haven't stated that there Ashley can back out, just that it would be sensible to wait and see how this all plays out. It's Godzilla who is convinced of something he can't prove...reminds me of BZG last year now come to think of it. The fact is none of us know whether it's legally binding for Ashley to be forced to sell or not. But oh no...

It would be more Newcastle United to announce the sale was off on a weekend when people least expect it. This. The most Newcastle United thing would be for Ashley to announce he is staying. Leaving us all looking like the biggest fools in world football. The only way he is staying is if the Premier League knock the takeover back or if the remaining amount is not paid into his account. He would be facing a massive lawsuit if he 'announced' he is staying when a legal agreement is in place. OK I'll entertain you..show me actual evidence that a legal agreement for the sale is in place that he can't back out of. The document uploaded to companies house does not prove a sale is agreed with no way for him to back out. We are led to believe he can't back out by the same press that has led us to believe he has been about to sell for 12 years. But I haven't seen irrefutable proof of this, and neither have you.

It would be more Newcastle United to announce the sale was off on a weekend when people least expect it. This. The most Newcastle United thing would be for Ashley to announce he is staying. Leaving us all looking like the biggest fools in world football.

Buyers claiming the deal is pretty much done. Ashley leaking that he has doubts. What could possibly go wrong? If only we'd seen this pattern before...

We just have to hope the confidence from Staveley's side is well-placed. She thought it would be done by now so lets hope it is.