Sean

Bruce can coach him to put in more effort, that is why you hire a top manager, to get the best out of your expensive investment in players. Putting a bit of effort in should not need a manager to tell you that ffs. I suppose Bruce should tell him how to score the simple chances he keeps missing too? Both Bruce and Joelinton are shite.

I did say this a while ago but yeah, they're awful for a top 5.

Agree with this. Whilst the circumstances aren't the best, he hasn't shown a semblance of real actual ability in 6 months. I'm convinced we've paid £15 million max for him, there's just no reasoning behind him being worth any more than that. We also don't pay more than that. Even at that price, he's been a massive disappointment so far. Hoffenheim have said it’s the most they’ve received for a player so the minimum we’ve paid is around £30m. I think the fees being bandied about are true. Which would make the whole deal even stranger.

Found myself watching Rondon's highlights from last year to remind myself what a real number 9 looks like. His hold up play was exceptional. Joelinton is a shadow of the player in every single department. I don't even think he could outpace Rondon ffs.

How he's not lost his job is beyond me considering he trolls and baits his audience constantly. Maybe thousands of fans should make it happen eh.

Agree with this. Whilst the circumstances aren't the best, he hasn't shown a semblance of real actual ability in 6 months. I'm convinced we've paid £15 million max for him, there's just no reasoning behind him being worth any more than that. We also don't pay more than that. Even at that price, he's been a massive disappointment so far.

He's got a heart the size of a pea and that was obvious in his first few games even.

Whilst that may be true, he should have scored a hat full today. His performance was nothing short of embarrassing.

I wasn’t far off then. https://www.newcastle-online.org/forum/index.php?topic=103996.msg7122162#msg7122162

You didn't enjoy that? Stop being so miserable, it was fucking hilarious.

So lucky not to be losing to fucking Rochdale man.

Fans having a go at Joelinton.

Joelinton wants taken off by the looks of him doing a Shelvey there.

We're lucky not to be losing ffs

No, he needs a goal today because a random poster on here would probably score if in his position. It would be inexcusable for him not to score against Rochdale with the chances he's been getting.

Nickson also put Muto and Murphy to him which he ended up agreeing to I think it was more the price with Joelinton that he thought hell no. Even less compromise with Nickson would have served him better in terms of avoiding pricey duds. Well he might have liked him for £5 million for all that quote gives us (and still would rather spend the money on his own pick, as stated). Never heard about this Muto and Murphy recommendation though. I'm surprised Rafa even agreed to it.

That was good play by him ffs His shot trickled towards goal ffs.

You can see he's terrified at the prospect of going 90 minutes against these without scoring. Like you say, he just has to get a goal surely.

He's absolutely going to score today, but yeah he's terrible.

Rochdale are fucking woeful. Be very difficult to lose here.

Fair enough.

I just don't buy this line at all. Rafa wants who Rafa wants. He isn't going to be led by suggestions from other experts ( ) within the club. The whole scenario goes completely against his whole ethos and football vision ffs. He may have given his opinion on the player, he may not have. I mean, who at the club approached him and said "we're trying to buy this guy - what's your take"? There was no communication from them to him, he probably first learned of the interest in the papers at the same time as we all did. I'm not sure where those suggestions came from, probably the press with an agenda.