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Even DM were calling them 'loan sharks' a few months back. Now Cisse has become the focus of their attention. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219878/Wonga-loan-sharks-laughing-way-bank-Firm-staggering-rates-pays-access-Tory-ministers--guess-wont-need-loan.html

So you think Cisse is only doing this because he doesn't agree with the Wonga principles and it has nothing to do with Religious beliefs?!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-23424012? Newcastle United is currently on a pre-season trip to Portugal, but Cisse pulled out, saying he was not prepared to promote the pay-day loans company, citing his religion, and instead offered to wear an unbranded strip. Tbh, if i didn't know he gambling in the casino's i'd be totally behind him saying no and offering to play in a wongaless shirt, but its just hypocrisy and i can't get past it. I remember when Wonga was originally announced as our sponsors and the reaction wasn't great. Newcastle United the heart and soul of this City and it is advertising a company in one of the poorest areas of the country that lends money at extortionate rates to those who can least afford it. Cisse for whatever reason (as we don't know - he's yet to say) has chose not to wear the shirt. Rather than support him I find it staggering that people are so quick to jump on his back and character assassinate him in forums and in the media. I just hope none of you ever need one of these loans.

very good post Ditto

is this on now?

Aye must be in line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23411365 If only..

Didn't the pair take Forrest down?

Fair dues. That's something I suppose.

Didn't know Kinnear scouted for Wenger.

I don't really care. Pardew is a s**** manager and if you asked me whether I'd rather have him over JFK/Harford I'd have to give it serious thought. That's how clueless I think he is. Yep, what an absolutely tragic way to have to think, that's how poor Pardew really is. True dat mind.

Manager-in-waiting. Really though what motivation does JK have for getting players over the line? Surely he'll just be waiting for Pardew to fail so he can swoon back in.

If Lambezzy got the sack for anything it was probably for giving this clown an eight year contract.

http://www.ftbpro.com/posts/crippy.cooke/276070/arsenal-and-manchester-city-going-head-to-head-for-florian-thauvin

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/manchester-united-launch-15million-cabaye-2071196#.UesR2kcg4MY.twitter And so it starts....

The obsession with the French market has become completely absurd like. Mix it up FFS. We have one scout. This is the problem. It does beg the question as to how big our scouting network is.

Great potential?? He's 27, should be in the prime of his career not showing potential Maybe he means great potential to be a success in the Premier League. Looks big and strong...is he quick?

I really don't want Cisse to go. The service he got last season was shockingly poor - we'll not get a better replacement.

There are reasons, you know. His hat trick against west ham I always quite liked Best - scored some good goals, few assists and always gave 100% on the pitch. Would have sold Shola over Best any day of the week.

Don't know much about him to be honest but from the clips I've seen he scores goals with his head as well as feet and has been pretty consistent - at least 10 goals a season. I'll take it.

Think it all rests on Suarez - if he goes they'll have £40mil burning a whole in their pocket. Will be gutted if Benny sold.

But their entire business model doesn't rely on getting people to take out loans they can't pay back, as is the case with payday loans companies which get 50% from their income not from interest, but from fines and charges for missing payments. Barclays charge horrendous amounts for missing payments and going over your limits just like all financial institutions. To counter balance that they also over 0% interest for 22months on balance transfers. The whole 'no interest' thing goes back to the days when there were no banks and people were lending money then expecting ridiculous sums back. But in the modern world yes you can get accounts that don't pay interest should you wish but islamic banks do pay interest. Wonga goes back to the days of when there were no banks, lending people money whilst charging ridiculous sums on interest.

Because he quite happily wore a shirt with virging money on, while playing in the barclays premier league. They're both money lenders who chatge interest. What Cisse is effectively saying is that Sharia law is ok with interest rates of less than 50%. Which is absolute bollocks. It isn't. The definition of usury differs depending on where you are in the Muslim world. Some consider any interest at all to be usury but many believe that only excessive interest is usury. Exactly. Interest based loans can be a real help for people to start businesses or buy a home. On the other hand the Sopranos version of interest where you pay the money at 100% by next week or get your legs broken is a different kettle of fish. Nail on head.

barclays are scum also, he's objecting to only one, why ? You can't compare Barclays and Wonga - they are two completely different businesses Wonga are a horrendous company and it was a sad say when they were announced as our club sponsors and I don't care for how much money. Newcastle was once a proud club MA has turned it into one of his cheap shops. Cisse is making a stand, forget what the papers say, this is more a morale stand than a religious one. It's an absolute joke the club have allowed it to get to this point. Is it too much for the Club and Wonga for that matter to show a little respect and say fair enough as a gesture of good will we'll allow you not to wear the shirt. Wonga would have had some 'good' publicity out of it and everyone would have been a winner. As it stands the club is in a mess, more bad publicity and a VITAL player unhappy and potential out of the door. And for what?

Wonga will be loving this the amount of free publicity they've had. I am sure in the end that is what will happen.

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