Shays Given Tim Flowers

personally I think we should bring back the messiah king kev to help our title push, as lord knows we belong up there with the best and should by rights have at least a few trophies over the past few years.

 

agree with all of this.  And do you know, I'd rather lose 4-3 tomorrow night than win 1-0.

 

 

I'd love it if we beat them though.

 

I'm going to dust of the VCR and tape this game. Anyone got Alex Fergusons address?

 

I'll dig it out for you in a bit mate, when this Kenan and Kel double-bill has finished.

No .gifs on this thread please. My 56k can't handle it. Got to go now anyway. Mum needs the phone.

personally I think we should bring back the messiah king kev to help our title push, as lord knows we belong up there with the best and should by rights have at least a few trophies over the past few years.

 

agree with all of this.  And do you know, I'd rather lose 4-3 tomorrow night than win 1-0.

 

I'd love it if we beat them though.

I'm going to dust of the VCR and tape this game. Anyone got Alex Fergusons address?

Pedro? Doesn't he make the reserves practice passing? I swear football management is a fucking pseudo-science.

Think if we did get rid of Pardew at some point I think given the set up of the club and MA's stratergy we'd benefit more from a head coach type, rather than a manager.

It's what they have wanted since they arrived.

One thing I think Ashley et al have done with the way we are set up these days is to limit if you like just how important the manager is and therefore making it easier or theoretically anyway, to replace a manager as they did with Hughton. In that sense Pardew is as dispensable as he was. It is no secret that the manager of NUFC has no real say on recruitment in or out. The manager is basically the coach. Someone to pick the right team from the players at his disposal and to create a winning formula.

 

In theory, replacing Pardew would not alter the way the club is run and how we do things in any way shape of form. Sacking Pardew and say replacing him with whoever wouldn't be like sacking Sir Bobby and replacing him with Souness or conversely sacking Ozzie and replacing him with KK. Either way the remit is the same, select a team from the players at your disposal and try to create a winning formula.

 

In many ways the club have for me, in the current climate anyway where someone like O'Niell can get you into the top 6 but f***ing cripple you financially and leave you with a squad of dross, put in place a system that for once protects the club. Like in Europe, the manager is essentially that. He manages the team, the players. The scouts and financiers manage the buying and selling of the players.

 

Pardew getting sacked, would not effect how this club is ran or anything like that so in effect, replacing him, from that perspective, wouldn't really be an issue. He is after all, simply the manager or the coach, hired to pick an XI from the players the club have identified and signed to play for the club and to then create a team to win matches. Pardew has done that thus far to be fair.

 

Whether Ashley can stomach the poor performances much longer and at what point those performances start to effect his business interest within the club, will determine how long Pardew lasts.

 

If we continue as we are, Pardew will go the same was as Big Sam, KK, Shearer and Hughton. Nothing will ever get in the way of how things are done or ran under Ashley and that is how things are in business really which is what he is or we are under him, his business, a business of his.

 

Good post.

Decent post HTT. The difficulty is that I am starting to think the players heads have dropped and if any hypothetical appointment wasn't the right one it may exacerbate this problem and worsen the situation. Changing managers in a comfortable mid-table team or better may not rock the boat. Doing it in a struggling one arguably could.

The question then becomes how do we stop the rot? At the moment I would say we give Pardew time and hope he can learn something from what's going on. He has shown (albeit on a limited level and perhaps more as a result of circumstances) that he can change things within the team for a positive effect. Will this change what is starting to be perceived as an endemic lack of focus on the teams play in training? Probably not. Generally though people learn from their mistakes and he must be starting to realise now things have gotten bad that he needs to start to think about doing things differently.

Any manager who belligerently persists with a plan which leads them into difficulty will find themselves out of the door fairly quickly. The arrogance of Allardyce during his time here being the perfect example. At the moment things are bad. It will be January before the situation is untenable. 

Far more concerned about the performance on the pitch than anything he says post-match. Very few managers actually ever say anything remotely worth listening to. What I hate at the moment is the only way we can see if anything has been put right is by watching the games but invariably (so far) nothing improves.

If there's any excuse today about anything then Pards needs a good slap. It's been that way for a while he's had long enough to adapt things. Our games have become such a chore  .

we are not very good at all.

3 defeats on the bounce against West Ham, Swansea and Southampton.

 

 

yeah but only two were at home.

Best chance of the match for us. Root one punt.

Aubameyang is good on FIFA this year so expect a  fest if there are any developments.

POST MATCH INTERVIEW

Typical fucking Newcastle United day today.

It's not his fault that we are severely under strength. Injuries, suspensions and Mike Ashley not investing sufficiently have been the bigger reason we are having this awful start to the season.

 

Don't agree at all, like. Look around at sides like West Brom and even Swansea. Even with our suspensions and injuries our first 11 on match days is no inferior to theirs. It's Pardew's obstinacy and lack of tactical nous that's cost us. f***ing 442 every f***ing game with no real attacking threat. The difference between us and sides like West Brom is that their manager knows how to get the very best out the players at his disposal. Our joker relies on individual brilliance to pull us out of the s***. We've not looked like a 'team' this year at all. No game plan whatsoever.

I don't think its even tactics. I think there is a systematic failure to get the team playing football as a cohesive unit.

We have one very good payer HBA, a good one Ba, and not much else with any real quality. If I was Ashley, which thank f*** I'm not, as that would make me a fat c***, I'd sack Pardew tonight.

Does this not suggest playing staff are a more pressing concern?

dont even try to blame senegal, cisse been s*** all season

It wasn't a serious suggestion.

Blame Senegal.

With the weight he put on that backpass we should probably use Williamson in the hole.

Jesus wept. Some of the things our players serve up.

Hatem does Maradonna impression.

We look like Liverpool. Plenty of the ball and chances but we could play until Monday and not score.

What's our record coming from behind in the league under Pardew again?

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Loads better so far. Keep it up!