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I wonder if he's going to score a goal when we play them in Feb.

 

If he wants to go that's about it. He has scored a lot of goals for us. Sure we can criticise the board for a £7m clause but at the end of the day as a free transfer he was in a position of strength with negotiations.

 

If Debuchy does come in we would be looking at the strongest XI we have had for a considerable amount of time. May not have happened as quickly as everyone would have liked but we will have some very good players on our books. A centre-back and a forward and I will be happy enough.

 

Team has been playing better football for the past few games. Real tragedy for me is the fact we have only started to play anywhere near our ability half way through the season. 

 

Players who want to leave are no good in the long run. End of story.

and he's the only one who appears to be in that camp.

I admire the positivity of people reckoning the team will be better off without Ba but f*** me the other players need to buck their ideas up fast if we're to replace his goals. We're shipping goals like f*** and now our top scorer is off. That's not normally a good combination.

 

 

Though others have seemed to be stepping up in recent weeks compared to a few months ago.

I have confidence in Cisse, his career form is good enough.

If he wants to go that's about it. He has scored a lot of goals for us. Sure we can criticise the board for a £7m clause but at the end of the day as a free transfer he was in a position of strength with negotiations.

If Debuchy does come in we would be looking at the strongest XI we have had for a considerable amount of time. May not have happened as quickly as everyone would have liked but we will have some very good players on our books. A centre-back and a forward and I will be happy enough.

Team has been playing better football for the past few games. Real tragedy for me is the fact we have only started to play anywhere near our ability half way through the season. 

These past two matches sum up everything about this football club. Unfortunately.

Marveaux taking the piss.

hey hey hey. Im not critizing him.  Im just discussing or asking if he would be better on the right.

 

only thing i say that could be negative is his left foot and that his end product is lacking. can be worked on and a new partner in stead of jonas could help the course.

 

think he has a good right foot that would produce more attacking from the right than his cutting in from the left do atm.

 

thats all. like the player and he is young. Not critizing. But there is always room for improvement!

Didn't mean you when I was saying criticising, just meant some fans in general. 

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

 

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

 

well i will give you plays a part. But santon does not make great left footed crosses. And i cant really remember him making an assist? his end product is lacking....i just think everything will come more natural for him on RB.

 

I agree with you on his crossing ability. Out of interest do you think its possible for him to work on this to a high enough level to be effective? If you look at his touch and general passing (as opposed to crossing) with his weaker foot he's very solid. I only ask because if he could become better with his crossing on his left he would be suited to playing on the left as obviously he becomes far harder to defend against.

 

If you had the option of him either overlapping to whip a cross in at the byline or cutting in and creating space for the left winger/driving at the box then I think we would have a seriously effective left side.

 

Well, he will only get better. Dont think his left foot will improve much. He is good... I just think he might be better on the right.

 

Maybe a natural left footed winger would do him good? Earlier i wrote Jonas was not to blame...he might be... To some extent?

 

But right now we do not create anything through Simpson and santon. Thats a problem. Imaging arfa if also the opponts had to defend against a skillful attacking rb. Arfa will improved hugely because of more options and space. Right now he is working alone.

He is only 21 afterall, compared to the players of a similar age he is streets ahead and is exceptionally talented (Ranger 21, Ameobi 20, Ferguson 21). He really is the least of our problems. Also think how many games he has played this season. I think a natural left footer would increase his consistency as he wouldn't have to do so much. I think you touch upon something though when mentioning Hatem. We currently have no partnerships/trios on the pitch. Under Hughton we had small chains of players working together very well, jonas, jose, colo; carroll, nolan barton.

To criticise him now is like complaining about someone lighting a match indoors while the whole house is ablaze.

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I had dinner with Marcus Gayle at Selhurst Park when Wimbledon ground shared with Crystal Palace. I was in my Newcastle kit about to watch them play against Wimbledon. He was a really nice guy.

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

 

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

 

well i will give you plays a part. But santon does not make great left footed crosses. And i cant really remember him making an assist? his end product is lacking....i just think everything will come more natural for him on RB.

I agree with you on his crossing ability. Out of interest do you think its possible for him to work on this to a high enough level to be effective? If you look at his touch and general passing (as opposed to crossing) with his weaker foot he's very solid. I only ask because if he could become better with his crossing on his left he would be suited to playing on the left as obviously he becomes far harder to defend against.

If you had the option of him either overlapping to whip a cross in at the byline or cutting in and creating space for the left winger/driving at the box then I think we would have a seriously effective left side.

I saw Pardew kissing Mrs Claus.

I think what he is lacking now is the end product. Strong and fast going forward and then......nothing. going forward should be what he is best at. defensively still a lot to learn.

 

imaging him in full speed overlapping arfa who cuts in and santons good right foot to cross with. He can easily cut in himself from RB. THAT would be the sh't we have been calling for and what simpson could never do.

 

I think we should move him to rb and buy a new LB.

 

he is good but he could be much better and a dangerous attacking option....which he isn´t right now. jonas is not to blame here.

Jonas' ineptitude is bringing Santon's offensive shortcomings into sharp focus though. He was essentially playing winger and fullback against City. Also whoever said he doesn't make overlapping runs is completely wrong. Pretty much all he did second half yesterday until Ferguson came on.

Is football management an Art or a Science?

First home game I have been to for a while. I am expecting a decent performance but a shit result.

For every ball into the box that is hit with any pace there are about 19 that are floated in.

Was interesting to hear him screaming go long in the last 5 only for the team to pass the ball up the pitch.

Fulham playing well, big improvement from us I thought. We look at our worst when the ball comes in from wide areas (in the attacking third). One of the better performances we have put in in recent games. I've actually enjoyed watching this. Ben Arfa is starting to get deeper and deeper though.

Desperate for 2 CBs and a RB so we target another midfielder?

 

Defending your Defenders is the best form of defence.

 

Having some defenders who can actually defend in the first place is probably the best place to start though.

Aye, probably wouldn't hurt.

Desperate for 2 CBs and a RB so we target another midfielder?

Defending your Defenders is the best form of defence.

In the metro yesterday we were apparently heading the list of clubs interested in signing Kaka.

The play between Ba and Cisse in that first half was the most promising aspect of last night for me.

Way too trigger happy. His decision making in the final third has been poor at best. At worst worryingly single minded for a guy playing in a struggling team.

Four consecutive league defeats? Nothing needs to be said other than that.

Its total rubbish . Worst fan site I have ever seen . they should give up and Stick to when the Boat comes in ..

 

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Seems harsh. I think this is a very good fan site.