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Agree fully but I dare not post it on there for fear of being called a pussy/bed wetter et al

Your luck has to change some time man. I'm hoping it doesn't but still. Eventually you'll beat us.

I'm still clinging to the fact we seem to raise our game against the big teams. However I'm resigned to the fact we're probably going down. I've seen this too many times to be hopeful. These big teams are also chasing results now, we are now into crunch time of the league. Refs always favour the big teams. Watch out for some dodgy old decisions coming in the next few weeks. Yep

I'm still clinging to the fact we seem to raise our game against the big teams. However I'm resigned to the fact we're probably going down. I've seen this too many times to be hopeful.

The same Martin O'Neill they, nearly to a man, wanted at the time? #partywithmarty without doubt the cringest set if supporters ever 'Pardiola' 'The Fenham Eusebio' There's been a few from both sides over the years. 'Hop on the Gus bus'

Dear god we're doomed

To be honest if we go down then it looks like we'll be there for a while. Out of the current squad Bardsley, Colback, Larsson, Westwood, Gardner and Dossena are out of contract. Alonso, Ki, Borini, Celustka, Vergini, Ustari return to their parent clubs Fletcher, Johnson, Altidore, Giacherrini and probably Cattermole will be off if a buyer can be found. Mannone will have offers as well I'd imagine. Leaving us heading into that league with a squad of O'Shea, Roberge, Bridcutt, Mavrias, Watmore, Wickham and Brown if he doesn't retire plus a load of kids and shite we can't get shot of.

15 points What he said

Well this is odd....close family friend gets tickets mailed to him on a regular basis, on account of his work with Sunderland City Council in his role as a foster carer. By the way - He hasn't fostered any bairns for about 5 years, and living in North Shields ('MAG TERRITRY FTM!!!') every ticket goes straight in the bin. You want them? Send them my way if you want...

There is still conditions to it though, they mostly get given to the university and city council. Unless your a student or work at either of these then you are probably unlikely to be given a ticket. It's not like they are literally handing them out outside the ground before the match. I've lived in Sunderland all my life, and I've never been offered a free ticket. My kids will come home from school with special offers (£20 for two tickets) but that's once a year. We got the odd one for a tenner when we were in primary school. Fourteen years ago now but I've never had a free ticket either. I'm missing out.

10? good grief had no idea it was that many. Only 4 for me I think. Maybe five. Tbh I've lost count.

Tut tut, using language like that about our dear neighbours. Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum will be on in a minute telling you how nice they are and how we should all be kind to each other.

More than welcome for me, the common sense realistic approach they hay taken is so far bearing up against the jibes and anecdotes. Will it last? I think they have had the help of derby wins, and a relegation or derby loss could see them wiring jaws and pushing things in letterboxes. I'm staying, don't worry about that, I like it around here, even with the dogs abuse aimed our way. Been on here for about a year and a half and I quite like it too. Like they say though we've never lost a derby while I've been on. If/when it happens I'll do my best to take it on the chin. I've had enough practice. Was living/ working in Newcastle when the 5-1 happened.

The General Chat forum?

This post is so full of unfounded, evidenceless generalisations that it hardly warrants a reply, but I'm polite, and I enjoy a debate, so here goes......... I'll start on the parts which I agree with. Newcastle is a better city. It has better infrastructure, architecture, museums, nightlife, hospitals and university. Now to the rest. There is not a huge anti Newcastle bias in Sunderland. I live here, and have done for all of my life. As with many of these things it's magnified because it's a vocal minority who spout off. Sadly the vast majority of Mackems, like me, are rarely heard, or worse, conveniently ignored. As for the Toon Ale. If I was to produce an ale called Mackem Magic, and tried to retail it in Newcastle how do you think it sell ? Nothing to do with the people of Sunderland being petty, simply our puerile rivalry rearing it's childish head once again. Sunderland a run down area ? The area I live in is anything but ran down, and by typing such ludicrous, generalised statements simply undermines the relevant parts of your argument. As for wearing rival tops in other cities ? Have you been to the Sunderland Airshow ? There's hundreds of Newcastle tops on show, and no one gives a toss. I go there every year and I think it's quite refreshing to see all the different fans, with their families, mingling without any trouble. As for your last rant. You began by saying you didn't want to sound arrogant, which is never a good start (it's a bit like saying "with all due respect") you then come out with this :- "And that's because yous are s***, a s*** club, s*** city, s*** fans, s*** s*** s***. NUFC are s*** btw but Geordies are recognised as decent people the world" Baseless, ignorant nonsense, akin to saying all Scousers are thieves, or all Yorkshiremen are tight. It's simply not true. Well said. Much better than I could have put it.

I hope you batter both tbh

'Massive lads fan' is a phrase that came from a WUM on our board trying to promote his mates butcher's' Others have copied it to take the p*ss It's not funny. Suppose you had to be there

'Massive lads fan' is a phrase that came from a WUM on our board trying to promote his mates butcher's' Others have copied it to take the piss

He's surrounded by technically excellent players, no wonder he looks good. Looks the worst of the lot in my opinion and he's an average footballer. If anything, Sterling has impressed me the most, kid is looking better every day. Suarez and Sturridge aside he's been their best player this season

Hendo might be back at Wembo very soon. He's a good lad Jordan. A real good pro, doesn't drink, still visits his old school, and has his feet firmly on the ground thanks to his family. It's a shame more pro footballers aren't like him. Oh, and he's turned into a rather good footballer since he left us ! He was a rather good footballer before he left too

Created division between our own fans this has. I agree with you to an extent. Those who go each week and paid for season tickets absolutely get first dibs. No questions. The fans who have to choose games due to work, location, other commitments then if they get their hands on a ticket fair play. Over the last few weeks I've developed a great dislike for some of the people who haven't been to a game in years but are going to this. Not even as if they used to go regular then stopped in protest. I'm talking about individuals who couldn't successfully name five of our first eleven. For instance two lasses at my work who I heard talking about their trip to Wembley and the mass drinking they'll do on the day etc. Seeing genuine fans scratch around for tickets and pay extortionate prices for one while people like this have them fall in their lap because they know someone who got a share of the corporate tickets really irritates me.

Because if Newcastle got to a final then the fans and City would not look forward to the day and/or enjoy it? I don't understand how this is a small club mentality? Also we have a 40k plus average for league games? I agree some of the cup attendances have been s**** but still... Hey, you've fluked your way to a cup final, good luck, enjoy it. The fact you're taking a lot more "fans" to Wembley than bothered to turn out in Sunderland for the semi against Manchester United and more than twice the number who turned out for your FA Cup 5th round tie does however smack of small club mentality, whether you admit it or not. Everyone knows that Sunderland fans and the sycophantic north east media have a whole catalogue of excuses for your embarrassing attendances but the most widely used one for the FA Cup tie was probably the lamest yet. You were all saving for a big day out in London :-) . Using that kind of mackem logic then Man City and Arsenal fans who sold out to 48,000 and 60,000 respectively on the same day mustn't bother with Cup finals or away trips to Europe etc. Getting to a cup final is a fluke? I must have missed something. I've already agreed that attendances were s**** in previous rounds but I still don't get why it's a stick used to beat clubs with. The fans who turned up deserve their final trip. The ones who didn't will have had their reasons for not going. As I've said before I was there and I couldn't give a s*** if I was the only one in the ground. What I had an issue with was the fact that we have a small club mentality because the city and fans are getting excited at the prospect of a cup final. the week before a cup final and on a mag board, f*** off, etc etc. All my travel and hotel plans are sorted so I've got some more free time while I'm off work. Ban tbh

Because if Newcastle got to a final then the fans and City would not look forward to the day and/or enjoy it? I don't understand how this is a small club mentality? Also we have a 40k plus average for league games? I agree some of the cup attendances have been s**** but still... Hey, you've fluked your way to a cup final, good luck, enjoy it. The fact you're taking a lot more "fans" to Wembley than bothered to turn out in Sunderland for the semi against Manchester United and more than twice the number who turned out for your FA Cup 5th round tie does however smack of small club mentality, whether you admit it or not. Everyone knows that Sunderland fans and the sycophantic north east media have a whole catalogue of excuses for your embarrassing attendances but the most widely used one for the FA Cup tie was probably the lamest yet. You were all saving for a big day out in London :-) . Using that kind of mackem logic then Man City and Arsenal fans who sold out to 48,000 and 60,000 respectively on the same day mustn't bother with Cup finals or away trips to Europe etc. Getting to a cup final is a fluke? I must have missed something. I've already agreed that attendances were s**** in previous rounds but I still don't get why it's a stick used to beat clubs with. The fans who turned up deserve their final trip. The ones who didn't will have had their reasons for not going. As I've said before I was there and I couldn't give a s*** if I was the only one in the ground. What I had an issue with was the fact that we have a small club mentality because the city and fans are getting excited at the prospect of a cup final. the week before a cup final and on a mag board, f*** off, etc etc. All my travel and hotel plans are sorted so I've got some more free time while I'm off work.

Because if Newcastle got to a final then the fans and City would not look forward to the day and/or enjoy it? I don't understand how this is a small club mentality? Also we have a 40k plus average for league games? I agree some of the cup attendances have been s**** but still... Hey, you've fluked your way to a cup final, good luck, enjoy it. The fact you're taking a lot more "fans" to Wembley than bothered to turn out in Sunderland for the semi against Manchester United and more than twice the number who turned out for your FA Cup 5th round tie does however smack of small club mentality, whether you admit it or not. Everyone knows that Sunderland fans and the sycophantic north east media have a whole catalogue of excuses for your embarrassing attendances but the most widely used one for the FA Cup tie was probably the lamest yet. You were all saving for a big day out in London :-) . Using that kind of mackem logic then Man City and Arsenal fans who sold out to 48,000 and 60,000 respectively on the same day mustn't bother with Cup finals or away trips to Europe etc. Getting to a cup final is a fluke? I must have missed something. I've already agreed that attendances were shite in previous rounds but I still don't get why it's a stick used to beat clubs with. The fans who turned up deserve their final trip. The ones who didn't will have had their reasons for not going. As I've said before I was there and I couldn't give a shit if I was the only one in the ground. What I had an issue with was the fact that we have a small club mentality because the city and fans are getting excited at the prospect of a cup final.

Because if Newcastle got to a final then the fans and City would not look forward to the day and/or enjoy it? I don't understand how this is a small club mentality? Also we have a 40k plus average for league games? I agree some of the cup attendances have been shite but still...