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Newcastle. A draw would be canny going but a win would mean one relegation place a certainty or at least very close. However the way you're playing I can see Cardiff being gifted three points...

Hasn't our punishment already been decided months ago though? Surely they can't punish us twice? What was the punishment though? We were fined iirc

Hasn't our punishment already been decided months ago though? Surely they can't punish us twice?

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Mackay or Holloway would be my preference. He's been pretty crap for Milwall though hasn't he? Mackay would be the sensible option but don't think he'd join you Hasn't he got them to within a shout of staying up when they looked written off?

Mackay or Holloway would be my preference.

You can considering he changed his mind due to fear, not loyalty.

Plus the whole 'Steven Gerrard deserves to win the league' s****, he would have about 5 medals if he wasnt s*** scared of gangsters Made this point to a few of my Liverpool supporting mates. Wouldn't hear of it. Kept up with the he's been so loyal, deserves a medal for being such an excellent player. A) You deserve a medal if you play in a team that wins something B) He's not loyal. He wanted a transfer after the club he claims to love so much had just won the Champions League. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2362047/Gerrard-walks-out-on-furious-Liverpool.html

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I've not been on here for a while as my time has been mainly taken up by my extra counselling sessions, and long ponderous walks in the country At the time of that thread there were plenty of us Sunderland fans on there posting that the season was going to be a disaster, and we we shot down with the usual Mag kernt, WUM or bedwetter responses. I was accused of being all three for politely pointing out that this season was going to be a disaster, based purely on what recent SAFC history has taught us and that DI Canio and Di Fanti were useless. Sadly, and predictably, I was right. It actually looks like we'll probably be relegated before our last two homes games. I bet those are a barrel of laughs, and I wouldn't much fancy being a Sunderland player on those two days. The season hasn't been all bad. Taking six points from you lot, and the cup final were fantastic, and something I though I'd never see as a Sunderland fan, and I'll always look at those days with happiness. But the overriding feeling I'll get when it all comes to it's inevitable conclusion "oh well, we're down again", which in itself is quite damning. We have to stick with Poyet, as constantly changing managers has been a nightmare. But he must git rid of the poison we've accumulated over the last 4 or 5 years, and start again in the Championship. Many Sunderland fans, and some fans from other clubs, think we'll come straight back up. I don't. I think the play-offs would be a more realistic target, and would be happy with that. I'm obviously disappointed with the way the season has gone, but it's came as no surprise, and the blow has been softened by the fact that many of us seen it coming. I know it's a cliché, but f*** it. Sunderland til I die ! the thing of it is that if you somehow survive, I'd reckon you'd have had a better season than us with the cup runs and the derbies. If we don't change manager and invest (lololol) pretty good chance of us joining you in the championship next season anyway Really? Far too much in your squad for that to happen I reckon. you mean like duff, owen, viduka, martins, colloccini, beye, bassong, etc, etc Valid point. If you can keep Remy or bring in someone similar you should be fine though.

I've not been on here for a while as my time has been mainly taken up by my extra counselling sessions, and long ponderous walks in the country At the time of that thread there were plenty of us Sunderland fans on there posting that the season was going to be a disaster, and we we shot down with the usual Mag kernt, WUM or bedwetter responses. I was accused of being all three for politely pointing out that this season was going to be a disaster, based purely on what recent SAFC history has taught us and that DI Canio and Di Fanti were useless. Sadly, and predictably, I was right. It actually looks like we'll probably be relegated before our last two homes games. I bet those are a barrel of laughs, and I wouldn't much fancy being a Sunderland player on those two days. The season hasn't been all bad. Taking six points from you lot, and the cup final were fantastic, and something I though I'd never see as a Sunderland fan, and I'll always look at those days with happiness. But the overriding feeling I'll get when it all comes to it's inevitable conclusion "oh well, we're down again", which in itself is quite damning. We have to stick with Poyet, as constantly changing managers has been a nightmare. But he must git rid of the poison we've accumulated over the last 4 or 5 years, and start again in the Championship. Many Sunderland fans, and some fans from other clubs, think we'll come straight back up. I don't. I think the play-offs would be a more realistic target, and would be happy with that. I'm obviously disappointed with the way the season has gone, but it's came as no surprise, and the blow has been softened by the fact that many of us seen it coming. I know it's a cliché, but f*** it. Sunderland til I die ! the thing of it is that if you somehow survive, I'd reckon you'd have had a better season than us with the cup runs and the derbies. If we don't change manager and invest (lololol) pretty good chance of us joining you in the championship next season anyway Really? Far too much in your squad for that to happen I reckon.

I play on a Thursday with a few lads from RTG. If you'd like I can run it past them. Are they sound of mind? Most of them

I play on a Thursday with a few lads from RTG. If you'd like I can run it past them.

In fairness they could pull a bloke out of the crowd to manage them tonight and still trounce us

The sad thing is. Though harsh on Mannone and to an extent Poyet and Bridcutt, I can't really argue with that .

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We've been fined. Months ago. For a clerical error. Hey, not just me mate the finest minds in football are saying the same. While it would have been easy to apply justice for the league games it would have been a huge embarrassment for them considering he played in a League Cup game too and they're probably hoping you just go down quietly so they can conveniently sweep it under the carpet. In the unlikely event you survive there will be a s*** storm and they may have to act correctly to keep what little integrity the league still has. To be honest if it was another team I'd be waiting for them to be deducted points. The fact is they knew months ago and a journalist has sat on the story til now. It's a farce the whole thing. If the player in question had kept us up ala Tevez and I was the fan of say WBA or Cardiff then fair enough I'd be outraged but the player in question is Ji Dong Won ffs. The twat has actually cost us points this season.

We've been fined. Months ago. For a clerical error. Has Poyet expressed his opinion on it yet? Something along the lines of 'I can't believe we weren't docked points' I think

We've been fined. Months ago. For a clerical error.

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Yeah it's mega childish to not want average Mackem players on our books, behave man. if he's Ronaldo I don't, but it's jack f***ing colback. Have a look through the thread in RTG and they can't wait to bin him off. He's turgid, often goes missing and basically offers nothing. Would much rather see bigi play, abeid back. Colback FFS He's better than those you mention. He tends to keep it simple but I wouldn't say he goes missing just doesn't catch the eye very much. I reckon he'd look much better playing more advanced.

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Sunderland - like Newcastle are a difficult team to manage. Place & Pulis are a great fit. Palace would be delighted to have 5 consecutive years in the Premiership playing hoofball - despite producing some very talented footballers. Sunderland on the other hand..... make otherwise decent managers (based on previous jobs and current jobs MON & Bruce are decent) look terrible. Agree with all of that except that Bruce and MoN are good managers. O'Neills Villa were shocking to watch with their one dimensional football, and Bruce's myth is only perpetuated by his media muckers. We'll get beat off West Ham tomorrow, and that'll be us gone. To be honest I'll be relieved when it's over, then we can start clearing out the utter s**** that's been infesting our club for the last 5 years. If we have to suffer more than one season in the Championship, then so be it. You have signed a s*** load of players the last two windows haven't you? How many do you think will stay? If everyone leaves who I'd expect to leave I reckon we're taking on the Champo with a squad of Mannone (Hopefully) Laing Brown/Egan O'Shea Roberge Bridcutt Cattermole Ba Wickham/Karlsson Graham Scocco/Watmore Plus whoever we can bring in. I imagine we'll probably get Buckley from Brighton. Looking at that we'd still need two full backs, a centre half, a couple of midfielders at least one of which knows that league and a reserve keeper. And thats with me being optimistic and hoping a few kids can step up. If we go down careful planning is needed. Keeping Poyet is crucial, as is allowing him to build his own side from the ground up.

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Agree fully but I dare not post it on there for fear of being called a pussy/bed wetter et al Mags tbh.