samptime29

Class game this.

We do the double over Sheff United 5-0 combined. Leicester do the double over us 8-0 combined.

Pure radge we beat Bournemouth 4-1 away and 10 days later they beat Leicester 4-1 at home. Football eh?

Football has been class since the restart. First few gameweeks took a bit of time to get going, but been thoroughly entertaining since then. Thought relegation was decided but not so sure now. West Ham/Watford is a massive game Friday.

LV you coward, where my answer at?

You agree with him? Better football under Carver? I can’t remember tbh. I’d say it’s comparable though, but luckily ASM and Almiron have flashes of brilliance. Can't remember lol. Okay then. Oh, I remember us being shite, but I can’t remember what system he had us playing. I’ll go back and watch some of it on YouTube though. No real need to laugh though, it was 5 years ago and I’ve had a child since then We lost 8 in a row. What do you need to remember? You’re extremely results driven aren’t you. I thought the question was about the quality of the football? So we lost 8 in a row and the standard of football was good? 3 wins in 20 games but we played reasonably well? Come on man. I don’t understand why you can’t see beyond the result though. Plenty of teams have played nice football and been relegated (even Norwich play better football than we do). It’s not difficult to grasp the concept that you can play nice football but still lose, but I do accept that you just want us to avoid relegation each season. Probably why you were such a fan of pardew I guess. I watched the Carver reign with my own eyes. Shite football. That is backed up by how poor our results were. It's not fucking hard to understand. You're trying to argue with me when you admitted last night "I can't remember" when I quizzed you on how we played under Carver. :lol: Yes some teams play nice football and get relegated. The Carver team played shite fooball and lost all the time. I wasn't a fan of Pardew. Making shit up.

Thank you. Finally a sensible post.

LV where my answer at?

Samp, this is purely a hypothetical question. Now remember, it's hypothetical. A team in the Premier league goes undefeated for the full season ending on 38 points but get relegated. That's right, 38 draws. In your world would that team be successful or unsuccessful? Oh dear, your brain can't take it! The second team in Premier League history to be undefeated? Pretty fucking successful. But they got relegated. ? Don't make stupid analogies. I enjoy debating and discussing football. My opinion is we play better football under Bruce than Carver. I remember the Carver games and remember how we played (5-0 City beyond dire ). I also provide evidence. 8 losses in a row. Bruce wins 1 in 3 games. Carver won 1 in 7 games. Opinions do matter but facts matter too. I forgot to add that this "hypothetical" team that got relegated didn't score a solitary goal. That's right, 38 games that ended 0-0. Were they a good team Samp? Clearly not a realistic question though. My question is an easy answer. Yes or no? Your question is fantasy. Not at all. I'm using mathematics and statistics. A subject you love. See what you can do with stats Samp? Use your eyes, brain and common sense and put those old Rothman books away (sorry, you are probably too young).? My stats actually happened though. My evidence is actually that. Evidence. Your talking about some weird situation you've thought up in your head that would never ever ever happen.

Samp, this is purely a hypothetical question. Now remember, it's hypothetical. A team in the Premier league goes undefeated for the full season ending on 38 points but get relegated. That's right, 38 draws. In your world would that team be successful or unsuccessful? Oh dear, your brain can't take it! The second team in Premier League history to be undefeated? Pretty fucking successful. But they got relegated. ? Don't make stupid analogies. I enjoy debating and discussing football. My opinion is we play better football under Bruce than Carver. I remember the Carver games and remember how we played (5-0 City beyond dire ). I also provide evidence. 8 losses in a row. Bruce wins 1 in 3 games. Carver won 1 in 7 games. Opinions do matter but facts matter too. I forgot to add that this "hypothetical" team that got relegated didn't score a solitary goal. That's right, 38 games that ended 0-0. Were they a good team Samp? Clearly not a realistic question though. My question is an easy answer. Yes or no? Your question is fantasy.

Not saying we play good football under Bruce. Our attacking play isn't often coherent. We were shit for large parts of season. No doubt on that. We have played some good football this season but only for 4-5 games. Short bursts. But under Carver we were worst.

Samp, this is purely a hypothetical question. Now remember, it's hypothetical. A team in the Premier league goes undefeated for the full season ending on 38 points but get relegated. That's right, 38 draws. In your world would that team be successful or unsuccessful? Oh dear, your brain can't take it! The second team in Premier League history to be undefeated? Pretty fucking successful. But they got relegated. ? Don't make stupid analogies. I enjoy debating and discussing football. My opinion is we play better football under Bruce than Carver. I remember the Carver games and remember how we played (5-0 City beyond dire ). I also provide evidence. 8 losses in a row. Bruce wins 1 in 3 games. Carver won 1 in 7 games. Opinions do matter but facts matter too.

Samp, this is purely a hypothetical question. Now remember, it's hypothetical. A team in the Premier league goes undefeated for the full season ending on 38 points but get relegated. That's right, 38 draws. In your world would that team be successful or unsuccessful? Oh dear, your brain can't take it! The second team in Premier League history to be undefeated? Pretty fucking successful.

You going to answer my question?

Rod you call me a robot because I use stats to back up argument? You're angry I use evidence to bolster my argument? Unbelievable.

You agree with him? Better football under Carver? I can’t remember tbh. I’d say it’s comparable though, but luckily ASM and Almiron have flashes of brilliance. Can't remember lol. Okay then. Oh, I remember us being shite, but I can’t remember what system he had us playing. I’ll go back and watch some of it on YouTube though. No real need to laugh though, it was 5 years ago and I’ve had a child since then We lost 8 in a row. What do you need to remember? You’re extremely results driven aren’t you. I thought the question was about the quality of the football? So we lost 8 in a row and the standard of football was good? 3 wins in 20 games but we played reasonably well? Come on man.

You agree with him? Better football under Carver? I can’t remember tbh. I’d say it’s comparable though, but luckily ASM and Almiron have flashes of brilliance. Can't remember lol. Okay then. Oh, I remember us being shite, but I can’t remember what system he had us playing. I’ll go back and watch some of it on YouTube though. No real need to laugh though, it was 5 years ago and I’ve had a child since then We lost 8 in a row. What do you need to remember?

You agree with him? Better football under Carver? I can’t remember tbh. I’d say it’s comparable though, but luckily ASM and Almiron have flashes of brilliance. Can't remember lol. Okay then.

What? He thinks me and you laugh, giggle and agree with each other. On every thread. Every single thread. Wow.

What?

If Gjohnson had said: we had played shite football under Bruce with the odd good games, that's fair enough. I'm not accepting the argument that we played better football under John Carver. We were comfortable mid table when he took over and nearly got fucking relegated man. 8 fucking losses in a row. 3 wins in 20 games. THREE FUCKING WINS.

You agree with him? Better football under Carver?

Thanks Judge.

Someone posted earlier that we play with no game plan and this is bang on. We actually just seem to react to whatever the opposition do. We do not press, don't hit on the break and the overall movement of the team is non existent. When we have possession it's like give it to Saint and hope for the best. I actually think we have some good players but we play with no direction or plan. That's all down to coaching and management. I really wish we could sack Bruce with immediate effect, that's what I feel about him right now. A total fraud who appears to have LOTS of friends in the media brainwashing people. I said there was no plan, as soon as we get the ball they just pressed us to the half way line and let us kick it about in front of them, then it's sideways, backwards, sideways, back to the keeper, hoof and defend, so predictable, so easy to play against, they figured us out after 30 minutes and Bruce couldn't change it. Was talking about it last night against samptime. The plan is to stick 10 behind the ball, and hope the other team makes a mistake and get them on counter. Pure cowardice aimed at trying not to lose rather than win. Apparently this made me a moron though. I really wouldn’t pay any mind to him. He’s really just a voice in the wilderness with maybe one other poster who agrees with him. He’s decent in the games thread though :shrug: Listen up you Fanny. He said Carver played better football than Bruce because sometimes under Carver we had more than 35% possession. I provided evidence that is the last 7 games excluding City we had 45% to 62% possession. We also had 52% possession against Watford today. I am not accepting incorrect factual information. Make your argument fine but don't lie about stats to make your argument. Misinformation is snide and unacceptable. Long and the short of it is as bad as Carver was and he was dire mind, he still served up better football than we've seen this season. The stuff this year for the majority ( a few recent games aside which seem to be the whole basis of your 'facts') has been some of the poorest most consistently cowardly and embarrassing performances I've seen in 30 odd years. Plus, calling someone a fanny because they disagree with you does not make your deluded opinion more valid You literally said Carver played better football because sometimes we had more than 35% possession under him. I haven't looked back throughout the season. I looked back over our last 8 games excluding City and we had much more possession than 35% in every single game. Therefore proving your point wrong. The fucking Twilight zone here. Carver lost 8 in a row. We were pure garbage under him. LV: no hiding on this one. Do you agree that we played better football under Carver?

Someone posted earlier that we play with no game plan and this is bang on. We actually just seem to react to whatever the opposition do. We do not press, don't hit on the break and the overall movement of the team is non existent. When we have possession it's like give it to Saint and hope for the best. I actually think we have some good players but we play with no direction or plan. That's all down to coaching and management. I really wish we could sack Bruce with immediate effect, that's what I feel about him right now. A total fraud who appears to have LOTS of friends in the media brainwashing people. I said there was no plan, as soon as we get the ball they just pressed us to the half way line and let us kick it about in front of them, then it's sideways, backwards, sideways, back to the keeper, hoof and defend, so predictable, so easy to play against, they figured us out after 30 minutes and Bruce couldn't change it. Was talking about it last night against samptime. The plan is to stick 10 behind the ball, and hope the other team makes a mistake and get them on counter. Pure cowardice aimed at trying not to lose rather than win. Apparently this made me a moron though. I really wouldn’t pay any mind to him. He’s really just a voice in the wilderness with maybe one other poster who agrees with him. He’s decent in the games thread though :shrug: Listen up you Fanny. He said Carver played better football than Bruce because sometimes under Carver we had more than 35% possession. I provided evidence that is the last 7 games excluding City we had 45% to 62% possession. We also had 52% possession against Watford today. I am not accepting incorrect factual information. Make your argument fine but don't lie about stats to make your argument. Misinformation is snide and unacceptable.