jonny1403

7 minutes ago, J7 said:

Nearly everything is made up though as we’re not flies on the wall in their transfer meetings. You go on what you see and hear and then give an opinion. I love Eddie Howe and he’s generally been great for us, but that doesn’t mean we have to pretend he’s faultless and Mitchell and Eales are these big baddies as some seem to be suggesting.

I mean that's my entire point. Give your opinion if you want, but there's a load of bollocks being spouted over the last week (not from you) along the lines of:

- Howe is insisting on Guehi and doesn't want any alternatives.

- Mitchell doesn't want Guehi. 

- Howe only wants British players.

- Howe only wants a few players from a small list and won't contemplate anyone outside of that list.

There is zero evidence for any of the above - it's just lazy patter that is annoying to read.

9 minutes ago, J7 said:

Howe literally said yesterday he has the final say on transfer targets. He’s talked about on 2 or 3 targets in a few positions. He’s obviously not solely to ‘blame’ if it goes wrong, but this attitude that he’s being hard done to if we don’t make signings is wrong in my opinion. 

That isn't the same as saying that Howe is insisting on Guehi or no-one. It's also not saying that Mitchell himself doesn't want Guehi. That's completely made up on your part.

Just now, J7 said:

To be fair, Howe has said that he picks the transfer targets. He’s not removed from the process. I doubt Mitchell arrived to spend weeks negotiating Marc Guehi. 

Why do people keep saying this man  There is zero evidence that Howe is the one insisting on Guehi. We operate by transfer committee. 

22 minutes ago, kingxlnc said:

We’ve definitely weakened overall, Anderson was improving, useful and trusted as an option, Minteh would be pushing for a start later in the season. Kelly is a good squad option, as is Osula but neither are starters. Ruddy and Vlad im not sure are even better than Karius. Hall we already had.

 

So far we have definitely weakened our options. I don’t like Man Us buys but all 5 of them you could see starting in their best XI. Ditto Brighton and West Ham. We have a good XI but defo need two starters, one at RW for sure

Minteh wasn't an option last season. So you're essentially comparing Anderson to Tonali and Kelly to Dummet/Ritchie, plus the addition of Osula. I'm not sure how anyone can say that is a weakening of options.

21 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

Why? Explain why it wouldn’t work 

Because you are playing four players out of position you mentalist 

1 hour ago, andycap said:

Mitchell wasn't there when we bid for olise and hasn't been in English football for a while. 

But you saying there not howe targets  is baseless aswell. 

I’m saying they are the decision of a transfer committee. As it’s been reported that that is how the club operates. You seem to be making it up as you go along. 

3 minutes ago, andycap said:

You and others try and say eddie doesn't target English based players for high fees. Yet Guehi olise dcl Trafford and that's just this window. 

Again, more baseless assumptions. Why are Guehi and Olise Howe targets but Isak, Tonali and Bruno G not?

6 minutes ago, andycap said:

Eddie himself bangs on about a small pool of players only to improve us. We have then bid for majority of the list so it seems to me that was the players we were interested in. 

I don’t think Eddie has ever commented on a single one of those players on the list. Where are you getting this from 

Just now, andycap said:

We bid for majority of the list. 

So can't be far off. 

I don't believe Mitchell would recommend Guehi if the price is what it is. 

He looks for bargains not huge fee players. 

We did. By no means does that mean that was the only range of players we were interested in.

You don’t believe Mitchell wants Guehi? Fair enough. There’s zero actual evidence of that though so it’s very odd to present it as fact.

Just now, andycap said:

What part? 

The bit where you said the players above are the only pool of players we are interested in.

The bit where you said Mbuemo is part of that pool despite there being absolutely zero credible reports indicating that other than people on this forum saying they like him.

The bit where you said Howe has told Mitchell to get Guehi 

4 minutes ago, andycap said:

Howe doesn't believe in loans so we could be stumped. 

I lay no blame on Mitchell he's obviously been told to get Guehi which he's tried to do but the price is far too much. 

The small pool of players probably consisted of

Guehi

Olise

Mbuemo

Tosin

Kelly

Dcl

Trafford

And other than the free transfers the rest aren't gonna be value for money. 

No offence to you but why have people consistently come with opinions in this thread they present as fact with next to no evidence suggesting their claim. It’s mental 

15 minutes ago, Zero said:

 

Why would the other club want to sign our dog dirt players in the first place? And at what price? And alternatives in the market?

2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

The club’s value has been pinned at £1bn already.  They’re definitely not running a loss vs club value

Fair play I didn’t know it was that high. 

And how much have they invested so far? It must be close to that figure right? 

15 hours ago, The Prophet said:

It is bizarre that so many think success and failure is defined by the transfer market.

 

More important to PIF, their investment has trebled in value in just a couple of years.

 

 

 

I'm not sure how you've worked out that PIF's investment has trebled in value. They'll be at a large net loss at this stage.

53 minutes ago, Kanji said:

People really forget what the fuck we were falling into before Mandy refused to take no for an answer, Eddie spending 20 hours a day trying to make NUFC relevant and our owners trying their absolute best to sign as many players as possible to progress us on the field. It’s Iike people think we have executives at the club just sitting around scrolling the internet and not trying to make this club better every single day. 

Absolutely nailed it. Some of the posters on here are genuinely embarrassing. 

9 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Even the club website announced it as 2025 when he signed his new deal. Unless he had a trigger for an extra year or we've done it on the sly then it's up next year.

8 hours ago, ponsaelius said:

 

2025 according to transfermarkt and .com

 

.com have it wrong, it’s definitely two.

6 minutes ago, ponsaelius said:

 

Wouldn't work as he's out of contract next year.

Nope, 2026

3 minutes ago, Zero said:

exactly, 25m pounds is very affordable, we should have gone for him, but we didn’t. Hence why I think we don’t have that 2-30m extra I.E. Douglas is bullshiting. Happy to be proven wrong.

What a mental take 

Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Makes sense, he’s currently fourth choice LB. Hopefully he can have a good 6 months and we get some money for him. 

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

Link ?

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5706622/2024/08/17/newcastle-united-southampton-result-analysis/?source=user_shared_article

The Athletic is quoting unconfirmed reports saying we’ve pulled out. 

The Athletic is quoting unconfirmed reports saying we’ve pulled out. 

Some people whinging about paying this lad the same as Bruno a few months ago 

30 minutes ago, gdm said:

I didn’t tho so they weren’t part of my point    Villa I forgot about and Liverpool granted they haven’t done any business which is why I didn’t mention them

 

Villa have made so many signings that it’s impossible to compare them to last season so you’ve kinda made my point mentioning them 

 

 

 

Of course it's possible to suggest that Villa won't do as well as last season when they have 8 extra CL games to contend with. We are literally an example of that from last season