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Also you have to factor in that the team didn't play well, Our number 9 and 10 were awful and had a massive impact on the team. It's never just one thing that dictates a result, be it attack a bit more, defend better etc. It can be a number of things that go wrong for a poor performance.

Tbf Triggs didn't say that, he said push up a little more, he didn't mention a high line, press a bit more and get more bodies around the striker. Not to unobtainable is it really, taking a little risk maybe ? As you said earlier, any mention of doing anything slightly more adventurous = I want everybody to go forward and to completely forget about defending, on here. Aye, there can be no middle ground, drives me nuts.

A great pass that Joselu fucked up, again.

Then this will be an immense frustration to him that they can't carry out his tactics properly.

Tbf Triggs didn't say that, he said push up a little more, he didn't mention a high line, press a bit more and get more bodies around the striker. Not too unobtainable is it really, taking a little risk maybe ?

Annoyed me today, what's the point in dropping between the two CB's to hit 60 yards passes, when those two CB's can hit them with the same ability, near as, just pointless in the extreme.

The 10th last season means nothing when every club around you spent shite loads improving. If Rafa had spent £70m last summer there's no way we wouldn't be inside the top 10 now imo.

I don't have an issue with how we are setup in the league etc, but when we play so bad against a team that's struggled in the last few months in the championship then I feel he has to take a chunk of responsibility for that. Yeah in that i agree, that's where his cautiousness really shows up.

And Var checked to see if it actually was one and not a dive

How was it awful from the manager? He can't risk the two or three players who are absolutely vital to us surviving, and we started the game on the front foot. The players were absolutely appalling today. It's his job to win football matches....fucks sake he can be blamed you know it's not illegal The shite tactics and way we play and approach games is down to him The whole setup stinks from top to bottom (a fish rots from the head, as they say) Get rid of Rafa and who you gonna get to come in? Rafa 'might' keep us up - Pardew/Allardyce, etc won't. Can you honestly say big Sam would get any worse from this group of players??? Sam is used to getting a tune from shite....Rafa isnt Literally the first post I saw in this thread, so thanks for giving me the signal to have the night off from N-O. The whole forum's gone to the dogs. People are saying we were shit.....we were People are saying Rafas tactics were shit .....they were Do we have to say Rafa is king no matter what? Gone to the dogs for having a genuine opinion on the state of it all, I’ve always been behind Rafa but tfuck me tonight he got it wrong again, at home, again. Convince me that We and Rafa are fine, go on. Even if I agree with you, how does any of it relate in any way to the blatant and obviously stupid suggestion that Sam fucking Allardyce would do a better job? Edit: And having a genuine opinion on the state of it all isn't why the forum's gone to the dogs, it's because examples of utterly stupid posts like the one above (comparing Rafa with Big Sam ffs ) have become more and more common over the last couple of years. I never ever said Allardyce is better than Rafa I said I don't believe that we'd be in any worse a position We are going down with everyone's Beloved Rafa and no one will blame him on here as he is impregnable If we went down with Allardyce it would be his fault no doubt Allardyce has worked with average shite all the time. Rafa has never had this level of shit to work with ever that's the reason I think we'd be no worse off But hey bury your head in the sand.... You know at West Ham at one stage he spent the most money outside the top 4, so not quite true that like.

Not only are you completely wrong about his Liverpool signings, have you even bothered to see who he signed for Napoli? Do some research ffs. Rafa took a title winning Napoli side and got them to 5th , spending fortunes. Did you think he did a good job there? When did Napoli win the title? Apologies, meant Milan, treble winning side, how did that fair? Inter, nit picking i know but the Internet.....

Like all managers he signed some duffers but he wins trophies if he's given the tools, and right now he's trying to dig a tunnel to France with his bare hands. He is a fairly defensive manager, not sure why that's a surprise that's how he's always been, maybe defensive is the wrong word, cautious is probably better. But better player in his chosen system brings better football and better results. Aye sometimes he gets it wrong, again what manager doesn't, yet with the money he's been given or should that be money he's been denied ? He's gone beyond what i would have thought he could with this lot. He's not faultless but only one man is to blame for the shambles that we call our club now.

I don't like this bloke.

Joselu then

Playing like we don't care for a club run by an owner who doesn't care, why should we i suppose.

It annoys me when people use this sort of exaggeration, so that they can take confrontational stances against positions that do not actually exist. Yep absolutely ridiculous bollocks, along with the 'wished we attacked a little more' = 'f*** lets go mental all out attack' Classic N-O melts getting upset when I criticise some of the players. Just like I said. Ok.

Kenedy has been fucking awful as well, our front two are so poor.

Better play, the finish however

It annoys me when people use this sort of exaggeration, so that they can take confrontational stances against positions that do not actually exist. Yep absolutely ridiculous bollocks, along with the 'wished we attacked a little more' = 'fuck lets go mental all out attack'

Any midfield would struggle playing with the pile of utter shite we have up top, despite them actually being shite as well tbf.

He has absolutely no idea how to hold a ball up, flicks it to no one.

That Premier/FA fit and proper persons test works well It was brought in after he bought us. As it happens it was brought in after the Man City owners bought them and they had asked for it in order to help protect their asset. Could have been us, now they have made sure it won’t be us. Oh ffs, that's just us all over He would have passed the test though, why wouldn't he? Aye, but i'm applying the ever useful hindsight like

That Premier/FA fit and proper persons test works well It was brought in after he bought us. As it happens it was brought in after the Man City owners bought them and they had asked for it in order to help protect their asset. Could have been us, now they have made sure it won’t be us. Oh ffs, that's just us all over

That Premier/FA fit and proper persons test works well

Prefer it if we played a strong side with a couple of youngsters in it than a complete reserve side, we don't play Chelsea for a week. Same conversation, different year