Nah came in at 18th (we were 19th). He was there since October though, a manager of his 'quality' should surely be finishing higher than 17th though...
I think the point was that you finished the season before he came in a higher position that the one he finished with you.
Howay man, I'm a mag!
When Allardyce took over though Sunderland were 18th and Newcastle were 19th