RS
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This has totally took over my life now. Especially as I'm on furlough from work for the foreseeable.
Just go fishing scoot. Oh that’s not allowed either.
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It would be nice to engage in some 2 way conversation, there’s been none with Ashley. If Chi Onwurah sees it as an opportunity surely there’s an opportunity to put our thoughts across to the owners. Hopefully the takeover happens and we have a chance to find out.
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Has anyone done the maths to see what he (potentially) walks away with after 13 years? Not including the free sponsorship but the premiership/tv money not invested. Player sales and sale price?
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The one thing keeps me thinking it will still happen is the non refundable deposit they have paid, which surely means they have already rigorously gone through the checks themselves to make sure there is zero chance of them failing it.
It’s peanuts though. That’s the worry. It all depends how much they want the club. There’ll be a tipping point where the bad press will outweigh the benefits.
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Richard Keys on the moral issues.
It’s the equivalent of Peter Sutcliffe reviewing claw hammers. All the experience but for the wrong reasons.
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Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Cisse: what a combination that was!
Strange, looks like us playing some decent stuff there. Popular opinion tends to be we were just lucky.
There were times during that season I was amazed by our quality of play.
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Loads of poor f***ers with Ashley Stockholm Syndrome will be high-fiving each other when it goes tits up and he’s he’s still in charge.
“Dodged some proper bad PR there lads”. “Better the devil you know” etc
Yes, the people who don't fancy their club being owned by a war criminal are the ones with Stockholm Syndrome.
You're on a slippery slope towards driving yourself insane if you're just going to pretend all criticism isn't genuine, even among fellow fans. At the very least, you already look ridiculous while doing it. I haven’t once said that SA human rights was acceptable. I took offence at all the bandwagon jumpers, yourself included who didn’t give two f***s about what was going on over there until now. NIMBYism at its worst.
Are you not the bloke who reopened discussion with being past caring and wished us well, only to spent the next few days posting relentlessly about how bad our new owners were? That’s more ridiculous.
You see, this is why you look ridiculous. How would you know if I or anyone on here cared about SA human rights abuses before all this? You're just guessing and I know you are because I've been on this forum for the best part of 15 years, have discussed this stuff at length for years (amongst other forum members) and there's been an active thread dedicated to Saudi human rights abuses since 2015. https://www.newcastle-online.org/forum/index.php?topic=97318.0
I'm the bloke who wished you all well before I knew who we were welcoming into our city with open arms, yes. Does me quickly changing my mind once I realised our owner is going to be a war criminal also disqualify me from prefering the club to not be owned by a war criminal? The mental gymnastics to actually avoid dealing with the substance is astounding. If it's not journalists' hypocrisy and the supposed bias against Newcastle, it's the heel turns of Newcastle fans on a football forum.
I wonder how many in the football section would still welcome the Saudis after reading even 2 or 3 pages of this thread.
Don’t think many would care, unfortunately.
Looks like Deuce was right.
P.S I didn't say you said it was acceptable either btw, just that those not wanting a war criminal for a football owner aren't the ones with Stockholm Syndrome.
I apologise for directing at you as this has been yours (and any one else’s stance from the offset) But fuck the bandwagon jumpers!
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Loads of poor f***ers with Ashley Stockholm Syndrome will be high-fiving each other when it goes tits up and he’s he’s still in charge.
“Dodged some proper bad PR there lads”. “Better the devil you know” etc
Yes, the people who don't fancy their club being owned by a war criminal are the ones with Stockholm Syndrome.
You're on a slippery slope towards driving yourself insane if you're just going to pretend all criticism isn't genuine, even among fellow fans. At the very least, you already look ridiculous while doing it. I haven’t once said that SA human rights was acceptable. I took offence at all the bandwagon jumpers, yourself included who didn’t give two fucks about what was going on over there until now. NIMBYism at its worst.
Are you not the bloke who reopened discussion with being past caring and wished us well, only to spent the next few days posting relentlessly about how bad our new owners were? That’s more ridiculous.
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Loads of poor fuckers with Ashley Stockholm Syndrome will be high-fiving each other when it goes tits up and he’s he’s still in charge.
“Dodged some proper bad PR there lads”. “Better the devil you know” etc
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They'll be demanding to know why Chi hasn't said anything next.
I mean she’s been a pretty fucking vocal critic of Ashley so I would expect her to tbh
I heard she’s advocating the sale as it will benefit the city whilst encouraging the Saudi population to increase their participation in sport whilst embracing a more western culture.
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Not a sniff compared to what nufc is currently experiencing.
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Get rid of Ashley first. Then worry about the repercussions. After 13 years of false imprisonment I think we are at least due a chink of light at the end of the tunnel.
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Bein sports. The company that employs people like this:
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Mid May. The apple cart is getting upset and the old school are dead against it. “How dare a little club up north end possible have so much potential?” It fucking stinks! And if it goes through I hope no one forgets the vitriol thrown at the fans during this.
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The clique is against the Saudis. Resistance is futile.
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I have no problem whatsoever with Amnesty International, they are probably as fair as they can be, although their world view is not going to be shared by all cultures across the globe. The world isn't run by rules set by Amnesty unfortunately, which is why this takeover will go through. I am a realist, and in the football world, you are either on the inside or the outside looking in. Amnesty International aren't doing anything wrong by pointing out the evils of the SA regime, but they were no use to us when Mike Ashley was screwing us to the wall. That's it really.
Mike Ashley isn't a country and he doesn't kill people
He’s the size of one and his warehouse has tried really hard to
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Squires can fuck off with that like. No need to show pictures of Keegan, Tino and Milburn celebrating and link them to Saudi human rights violations.
Agreed. Very poor taste I thought and I'm a big fan of his.
Come on now, they're going to be linked with us for as long as they are owning the club. I think the cartoon does a great job highlighting it. For millions of people the first thing they now think of when Newcastle gets mentioned is Saudi Arabia.
Is it balls
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“Fast moving this is”
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I don’t think anyone has stuck up for them. More pointed out other bigger abusers of humanitarian rights who go almost unchallenged.
The concentration camps in China are abhorrent, their execution rate is multiples of the Saudis and yet it’s swept under the carpet. Amnesty International and everyone else are using the alleged takeover as an easy way of making news and unfortunately it appears it’s us the fans that are the fall guys in all of this.
I think everyone will admit there’s bigger fish to fry than the Saudis but they’re a harder target.
This post has proved the point of lots of folk posting in this thread.
"I'm not sticking up for the Saudis, but stop having a go at the Saudis cos they're buying my team. Look over here! Look over here!"
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/campaign/expose-chinese-camps
For example. When did you start your stance on human rights? I’m guessing the vast majority of the people vocally against the new ownership have never protested about human rights previously, complained to the government about the trade deals with SA etc etc. But now it’s ‘affecting’ them it’s a major issue. And saying Chinas issues doesn’t count because they’re not buying the club doesn’t really sit that well either. It just reeks of nimbyism.
If SA is good enough for the British government, voted in by the British public then it’s got to be ok hasn’t it? If not why isn’t the first stop to go for them not the ordinary Joe’s that just want to see a competitive club again?
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They will have Jamie Rueben who will know somewhat of running a club.
It could very well be that Charnley jumped before he was pushed. There has been rumours for quite a while that he’s has a job at the airport ready and waiting for him.
Aftershave counter or PC World?
Got to be Greg(g)s! His background is pie salesman isn’t it?
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You could post £350 m through that gap in his teeth
Spock’s been on the communicator. He wants his eyebrows back.
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I don’t think anyone has stuck up for them. More pointed out other bigger abusers of humanitarian rights who go almost unchallenged.
The concentration camps in China are abhorrent, their execution rate is multiples of the Saudis and yet it’s swept under the carpet. Amnesty International and everyone else are using the alleged takeover as an easy way of making news and unfortunately it appears it’s us the fans that are the fall guys in all of this.
I think everyone will admit there’s bigger fish to fry than the Saudis but they’re a harder target.
The Chinese government aren't currently buying a Premier League football club.
That’s alright then. I forgive them
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You’ll get back into it when things start getting interesting again next year.