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    7 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said:

    If you feel that you've answered the questions suitably, you can then leave your answers there to be read and then take yourself out. If of course thats all you have to say on the matter. As you stated.

    Eh? I asked the question, that's the point, in the hope of getting an answer to it. Assuming that means you've not really read what I've posted, who's being deliberately difficult and awkward now? 

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    18 minutes ago, Inferior Acuña said:

    Good thing that won't be the plan then. :thup:

    Do you know whether the prospective new owners have been made aware of the plans and reacted positively as has been reported by various outlets today, or not been contacted at all as Liam Kennedy suggests?

     

    There's a significant difference between those two scenarios. 

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    12 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

    If the Trust succeeds and ends up having a seat on the board and a practical role in club matters, then that's where your vote really comes into play, as far as I can interpret it. So, by pledging but not joining, you'd have helped to enable that dynamic, but wouldn't be able to contribute to steering the views expressed by the Trust in the boardroom. 

    Cheers. At risk of subjecting myself to a second forum pile on for asking a question..... 

    If "The Trust" or whatever own say 1% what sway does that really give them in decision making when someone else in the boardroom owns say 90%+?

    Also if this 1% group has to refer it's vote on stuff to however many thousand members to decide what they think, how does that work? 

    Not asking you specifically, more a general question? 

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    2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

    For the record I've absolutely no issue with partaking in the debate you and I are currently having. It was others who chipped in with comments about the nature of your posts. 

    Anyway, I don't feel I'm providing an ott defence of the Trust, I'm saying that the grievances you're inferring aren't really rational. So you might want to pledge, but you have reservations about doing so because you 'won't have a say' about said pledge? If that's the case, my argument is: what even is there to have a say about? There's only one reason to pledge.

    That was part of the question really, if only members can have "a say" (or "a vote", which is what i've seen suggested today on social media), clearly there's something to have a say or a vote about, no? Wanting to understand what shouldn't be a problem. 

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    1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

    Sounds like you're just finding something to complain about here, like. The Trust has been totally transparent regarding its intentions; it's not an issue where they're canvass the membership for opinions, they're encouraging people to donate to achieving a specified goal. So what exactly do you want to say and your pledge? 

    I only asked a question ffs, which was is my understanding of the situation right, then I can make my own decision, as can everyone else.

    I didn't say they weren't being transparent, did I? Show me where I did if so.

    You were the one who turned it into what we're discussing now. 

    Sounds like you're just defending them against stuff that no one has actually said here, like...... 

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    2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

    Well I was referring to those people you described, i.e. someone who may feel aggrieved at pledging but wouldn't have a say. The obvious remedy to that being to just join the Trust. You're obviously neither pledging nor joining the Trust, which is fair enough and you've nowt to worry about. 

    That totally misrepresents the situation - I've no intention of pledging if i then have to be a Trust member to have a say about my pledge. 

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    Just now, HTT II said:

    I see pledging and becoming a member the same thing (admittedly before this I was already a member), I just think the two go hand in hand and my reasoning is investing what 2 quid in NUST is the equivalent to investing in the pledge too.  It’s such a small price to pay to be a member of such an important organisation and potentially part of a very prominent part of all of our futures as fans, as a club. I’ve been very critical of NUST in the past and still have issues and concerns, but the only way to have a positive influence oneself is to join up and speak up and help out etc. Membership costs compared to say Sky subscription, a programme... it’s a no brainier IMO!

    Its not about the cost at all, i don't think they represent either the fanbase in general (not that they claim to) or even their membership's own views. I've said all of this before though and don't intend to go over it again. 

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    3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

    Well if you're gonna pledge then you might as well go the extra pence and become a member. :lol:

    I can understand the pessimism (I share it, tbh, which is no fault of the Trust) but what I can't understand is some of the cynicism, like. There's no risk here. 

    I don't want to be a member of the Trust, simple as that. 

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    2 minutes ago, Ben said:

    It must be so disheartening for NUST to do all this work for the benefit of the fans, to have it all chucked back in their face.

    What work?

    for what benefit?

    of which fans? 

     

    How have their apparent 15,000 members benefitted from what you think they've done? 

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    Just now, Yorkie said:

    Well my defence of the Trust this evening had nothing to do with knowing Greg personally, and everything to do with faith in the concept that having as united a front as possible will stand us in better stead when it comes to fighting certain battles. And the Trust provides the best opportunity of that.

    Like I said in my first post, I can relate to some of the criticism, and if Thursday's announcement is a load of nothing then it'll be a disappointment. But I don't see any harm in trying to get new members. I don't see anyone at the Trust who's out for any personal glory or self-promotion. They're volunteers at the end of the day. 

    Ten years in, what do you think they actually stand for? 

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    3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

    I still don't get it. What's nefarious about them promoting themselves? What's wrong with them trying to get more members? We can debate their actions and methods but I think that's a separate issue to any debate around whether they should or shouldn't seek out more members. 

    Issue for me is when they repeatedly push the "get your voice heard, become a member" whenever the latest crisis appears, then do nowt. 

    Got that audience with the premier league then backed off completely straight after.  It was exactly the same when Rafa was leaving "join up get your voice heard" then did nowt. 

    As has been said above, they get a far better "press" on here than with the general fan base simply because a few on here are mates. A read of the early pages of this thread shows the difference when that wasn't the case. 

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