Kid Icarus

Didn't you watch the match before this one? The results haven't come yet, but I dunno how anyone can't see a huge improvement in how we play and the dedication of most of the players.

You'll see it if you have a read back through the last few pages

I am yeah.

Not sure like, I'm seeing a fair bit of 'I'm not saying we should get divorced, but...' sort of energy like.

I know you are and that's what I'm saying is surely deliberate ignorance. It doesn't make any sense to do that, especially this early. People did the same with Rafa though so if they did it to him they're definitely gonna do it to Howe.

Context is everything, especially after the takeover, yet always gets ignored for some bizarre reason. People used to say the same about Rafa, that he should only be judged on what he was doing at Newcastle. Nonsense, Rafa got leeway because he'd been a very successful manager for years, Steve Bruce got a hard time straight away because we had 20 years of watching him being a shit football manager. Eddie Howe will get a good chance because we saw what he achieved with Bournemouth and what he's trying to do here. Deliberately ignoring the wider context and keeping the blinkers only on their time at Newcastle is deliberate ignorance surely.

Both things of those things can be true and are true.

Had a feeling this would happen. His record in the F.A Cup is astonishingly bad.

You've just got to laugh really.

Tbf, for some people I imagine it's the match threads that do that rather than the matches themselves.

It's just a rehash from one of the bits in this https://theathletic.com/news/newcastle-pushing-to-sign-both-sven-botman-and-diego-carlos/LY9mpZxOpDh9/

A confidence building thrashing and no injuries would be amazing

Judging by the Reddit comments, Carlos is possibly the more exciting signing between him and Botman. A lot on there seem to think that Botman really, really struggles if he's playing in a defence that plays a high line (something I'd expect us to do in the future) and I've seen a couple of comments saying Carlos has been one of the best defenders in La Liga this season.

Feel sorry for any fans that end up with him owning their club, including those who arrogantly think we don't know what we're talking about despite the 14 years experience of what he's like. I said when he left, I wouldn't wish him on any set of fans including the mackems. At the end of the day we all love football and for anyone who loves football and their club, he's the enemy. The only good situation is one where he's not involved in football whatsoever.

Wonder if it's some sort of pressure tactic to try and make the clubs more eager to accept a bid in case the other one does first.

Aye, he did imo https://youtu.be/u9rinCtku1I

At the time I don't think anyone replied to it or maybe didn't agree, but I was sure at the time that when Adam Johnson ran to celebrate in front of us he did an airplane celebration.

Anyone that can look at the signing of Trippier for £12m and try and claim it's a bad signing with a straight face has sacrificed the perception of their sanity for pride and I imagine it'll only get worse.

Not jealous, but would be if Villa were still down the bottom with us and I'd be absolutely buzzing if we'd got him. Really interested to see if he can regain his form

Ornstein interviewed him last year, so on that alone I'd take his word on it above the others.

I'd be hugely excited if we were getting him on loan, regardless of his long dip in form. Huge for Villa if they can coax even 50% of his talent out of him.

If it's Botman or Carlos then from what I've seen Botman is the botter option

Tifo has moments like that often like. It's why I take everything they say with loads of salt. I mean look at the state of this: https://youtu.be/buM8npcptsc

youtu.be/5gw-6UYxJQk Hadn't even thought of Tolisso. Some interesting picks in here, know very little about any of them though.

Update the thread title you pigs, he's been!