Whitley mag

Aye you cunts are rubbing off. Note to self, must keep out of this thread.

It’s a legal process now and who benefits from delays ? The legal people who will be racking up massive bills in this process. There will be delaying tactics from the PL at play, but we’ll get there in the end, it’s very much the end game now. I’ve got no doubt there’s been a push to get it done before January window closes, but if we’ve got to wait till Feb/March so be it. The appointment of Jones is a very short term attempted fix to try and avoid any big changes until it’s done. This fast tracks without arbitration hearing if things go our way with Bein being reinstated shortly, in my opinion. So when this still isn't done in March, what's your next time frame going to be? Let’s see what the state of play is in March. Barring relegation being a deal breaker, this gets done by hook or crook eventually, mark my words.

Here’s one for Penn.

It’s a legal process now and who benefits from delays ? The legal people who will be racking up massive bills in this process. There will be delaying tactics from the PL at play, but we’ll get there in the end, it’s very much the end game now. I’ve got no doubt there’s been a push to get it done before January window closes, but if we’ve got to wait till Feb/March so be it. The appointment of Jones is a very short term attempted fix to try and avoid any big changes until it’s done. This fast tracks without arbitration hearing if things go our way with Bein being reinstated shortly, in my opinion.

Sounds like exactly the same type of quotes Caulkin came out with towards the end when the buyers kept feeding him the same line about their confidence only for it to all fall apart. Yep, it’s exactly the same. Who is benefiting from this though? No one is benefiting, it’s a complex constantly changing process. Remember this is being driven by Ashley and his legal team, so not necessarily consortium feeding info to media.

Nice to see Charnley get a mention the useless cunt.

Agree entirely.That was put much better than I was trying to explain in my essay. But he’s about to pay a 6 figure compensation fee to Bournemouth for an extra coach so surely your logic is wrong ? A 6 figure compensation fee is far cheaper than sacking Bruce and appointing someone like Howe. A long term management appointment is not going to happen, if worse happens over next 3 games Jones will get the gig. Bruce has to go, however giving the job to jones in any capacity even as caretaker would be a disastrous decision. Could Jones do any worse than Bruce at this point ? Regardless of the merits of potential candidates, the fact remains a long term appointment is not happening under this current regime.

Agree entirely.That was put much better than I was trying to explain in my essay. But he’s about to pay a 6 figure compensation fee to Bournemouth for an extra coach so surely your logic is wrong ? A 6 figure compensation fee is far cheaper than sacking Bruce and appointing someone like Howe. A long term management appointment is not going to happen, if worst happens over next 3 games Jones will get the gig.

Exactly, if they’d appointed Eddie Howe on a 3 year contract I’d be joining the disbelievers. You’re terminology of a sticking plaster is spot on, it’s a very short term, cheap attempt to fix it. This won’t be Mike Ashley’s problem for much longer.

I'm pretty sure they live in the same house so you're probably right. Which one is called Keith? No flip flopping with me lads. My position remains unchanged this changes nothing. All this reading into a tin pot coaching appointment and linking it with takeover will be proven to be illogical. I’m not prepared to spend time counselling the disbelievers any further though, it’s still very much on and I will be proven correct in not to distant future.

What is happening at the moment if it isn't arbitration? I thought it was arbitration, hence Masters dropping it into his letter and that talk about a third party panel being better than we'd expected? The proceedings have started but not the hearing. The way I understand it is De Marco and PL could come to an agreement at this stage before hearing itself starts. This is what I think NCSL are alluding to when they’re saying Bein stands in way of deal being done.

He's the public face of PIF, we all knew that already. That doesnt equal him being ultimately the main man in control of day to day decision making though which is what is in question. So nah he's not right at all. The fact he's commenting sarcastically about him "obviously being nothing to do with it" shows what a clown he is. Nobody at all has said he's got nothing to do with it, simply that he isn't the one running it day to day. There's a panel of people making decisions on its aims and a main guy doing the day to day decision making, a man who has already gone through PL tests. Well explained and I’m sure Shaheed Fatima will nail this in any arbitration. I’m also confident they will be able to use the Man City ownership model to further muddy the waters and show how we are being treat differently. For anyone who has watched Wraiths show on a Friday the Crystal Palace ownership may also be used as evidence to show what a farce this is. I haven’t researched his myself but Hastie and Mitch always bang on about Palace being owned by a Delaware company, and no one even knows who they are. I’m quite sure that De Marco and co will be able to evidence how we have been treat unfairly when compared to other takeovers. Someone on here yesterday summed this up completely, how the hell can the PL in our current predicament even claim to be acting in our best interests, it’s f***ing laughable when you look at the state of the Burnley takeover. Still don’t think this goes to an arbitration hearing, once Bein is reinstated in Saudi we’re home free in my opinion.

If they can’t link govt to piracy though once Bein case dropped does it even matter ? There’s nothing in the PL rule book to say a state can’t own a PL club. It’s all about Bein dropping their case against Saudi, once that happens I’m struggling to see how separation is even still an issue.

Sorry to piss on you’re chips Keith, but according to some on here this is the final nail.

Do they need to prove separation anymore though if they can’t link govt to piracy ? I’m quite sure Staveley said they offered to put whole of PIF board forward for the test. Once the PL can’t link govt to piracy I’m not so sure this insistence on separation will be an issue anymore. Regardless I’m quite sure De Marco and Fatima have a game plan for this.

Do we know for an absolute fact that relegation is a show stopper ? They've spent so long on this, it would be a decision made on such short term thinking if they dropped it because of relegation. With the right structure and management in place, quick promotion back to the PL could be achieved. Buying the club will be a long term plan so it would appear a bit silly to dump it all for maybe 1/2 years in the championship. They want the club because of it's potential. Relegation doesn't take that potential away. According to Mark Douglas the other day it’s not a deal breaker and they would have done deal last season regardless, as it was a long term investment. However, Liam Kennedy thinks it would be so take ya pick.

I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? I’m saying news of Bein being reinstated may be made clearer this week. Look I’m as p*ssed off about the current situation as anyone, and the current situation is very worrying. However, as someone else just said earlier why would Bein situation stop arbitration ? The answer is it wouldn’t directly, however if the PL have indicated in proceeding so far that Bein being reinstated changes things, why not hold off and wait for that. This is why I believe 2 of Keith’s last 3 tweets have referenced this. So if bein is announced to be broadcast in Saudi Arabia the prem will drop everything and the deal will go through ? Nah, still the big 6 to convince. I think the big 6 are hiding behind piracy, if that obstacle is removed it goes through in my opinion. I don’t think they’ll have any legal case to block it once Bein’s London arbitration hearing is dropped. As far as I’m aware, despite other broadcasters not being happy with Saudi, there are no other legal cases against them that the PL could fall back on. According to many journalists it’s always been about piracy, the so called big 6 have used this to lobby against takeover.

This was his tweet from the other day which again referenced Bein agreement blocking deal.

I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock. You’re saying it’s going through this week? I’m saying news of Bein being reinstated may be made clearer this week. Look I’m as pissed off about the current situation as anyone, and the current situation is very worrying. However, as someone else just said earlier why would Bein situation stop arbitration ? The answer is it wouldn’t directly, however if the PL have indicated in proceeding so far that Bein being reinstated changes things, why not hold off and wait for that. This is why I believe 2 of Keith’s last 3 tweets have referenced this.

Not everyone’s cup of tea on here, but I think a credible viewpoint on the current state of play. At this point it may be in everyone’s interest to get this sorted without legal action, and this tweet is consistent with line from NCSL.

I’ll break a habit and return to the land of doom and gloom. You’re spot on the tweet is being overly construed as negative, there could be an announcement from Saudi this week according to Jacobs on this very issue. The agreement between Arab nations involved the dropping of all legal actions, the general consensus is this will happen, we just need to hope it happens this week to break deadlock.

If Jacobs is correct this could be a big moment next week for the takeover. If Bein is reinstated then I would imagine both WTO appeal and Bein lawsuit will be dropped. This will be the difference between getting Rafa or being stuck with Graham Fucking Jones, never has so much been at stake for this club.