TheBrownBottle

No, I’m aware of the above. That still does not mean that the Newcastle-Sunderland rivalry begins during the Civil War and continued through the centuries.

The only positive thing I can say about Joey Barton is that he’s not quite as horrible as his brother. Admittedly, that’s a low bar.

My hopes depend on who plays midfield. If we start with Longstaff-Bruno-Miley we’re getting nowt. Otherwise I fancy us to get something.

WKL is like James Joyce next to Lee Ryder mind

I don’t think so at all tbh. Hasn’t made Southampton-Portsmouth or Newcastle-Sunderland more cuddly. Man Utd-Leeds is nastier than Liverpool-Everton.

Sunderland wasn’t even a town during the civil war. It’s just ahistorical the whole ‘Sunderland was Roundheads, Newcastle was royalist, that’s why they don’t get along’ stuff. Same with the mercantile stuff from the same era. There’s nothing in the historical record to suggest anything of the sort, and logic dictates that there wasn’t a rivalry between a town with a population over 10,000 and a handful of villages with a combined population of the low hundreds.

The Rothmans Yearbooks were always nailed-on. And I’d be willing to bet that not one of them before the late ‘90s mentions ‘black cats’.

The English Civil War stuff is a Mackems invention mind. Sunderland didn’t exist in any real sense in the mid-C17th.

Some of them are absolute loons when it comes to this stuff.

Even the ‘Black Cat’ thing is weird. A nickname voted for by Soccer AM viewers, because the club didn’t have a nickname (they were the ‘Rokerites’ when I was a kid. But once that shithole was knocked down they had to change it). So they had to make up a pretend history as well - they’d ‘always’ been known as the Black Cats because of a Napoleonic War-era battery which was known as the ‘black cats’. But no fucker ever called them that - they just needed to vote for something that wasn’t ’the Mackems’, which of course is what everyone on Tyneside were voting to call them. NB From memory, the tiresome wankers on Soccer AM were shocked that ‘Mackems’ didn’t win. Though if it had, they’d be insisting that actually it was never a pisstake, and it that they called themselves that.

I used to work with a bloke who was like they on are on there - everything was a mag-based conspiracy against Sunderland. For example; he believed that Grey St in Newcastle was funded by Sunderland tax-payers at the expense of Sunderland city centre. When I pointed out that when Grey St was built Sunderland wasn’t much more than a collection of fishing villages, this was casually dismissed as an irrelevance. Sense can’t be talked into some of them. But that’s not my experience of most Mackems - who are no different to the average Geordie generally. But there is a sizeable minority who are utterly broken.

It’s the easiest way to be publicly homophobic these days

Once Joelinton was off it was painfully obvious that our problems are midfield-based. Bruno isn’t disciplined enough to play where he plays if the players next to him aren’t going to cover. I’m sure young Miley’s day will come, but we need Willock and Joelinton back and fit ASAP.

I thought he looked clumsy, though I think he’s unlucky with the OG - Isak was going to score if he doesn’t get something on it. The ball by Joelinton was a nightmare to deal with. Incidentally, Joelinton is fucking brilliant at those sort balls from the left. They’re a nightmare to defend. I still prefer big Joe at LW.

That’s daft tbf - it definitely is one of them. In terms of ferocity it’ll be comfortably top five.

Or Michael Grey looking at the balls before pulling Brazil ‘70 out of the hat. I just want a straightforward home tie. I’m desperate to see us go on an FA Cup run. I could take never winning another trophy again if the one we win is the cup.

It’s such a peculiar thing anyway, the notion of ‘in a row’ for non-consecutive matches. Do any other group of supporters go on about these sort of things? They make up their own achievements and then parade them round as if everyone else should accept that it’s a thing.

WKL naming names, so it is likely true or has truth in it. There is clearly a problem which isn’t ’bad luck’ re injuries. Sounds like there are more issues around the appointments tbh.

Especially when the OG basically prevented an Isak hat trick, and was scored by a player who should have been already sent off edit: I also like the ‘penalties don’t count’ thing, as if they’re the pre-Great War Corinthians FC. Oddballs.

We won five in a row in the 2000s, and I was at all of them - but it never occurred to me at the time that we had, and we didn’t create a culture around it. It was only later with the ‘six in a row’ shite that I went back to look. They’re absolutely small time.

Yep. They think that giving Newcastle 6,000 tickets was the result of a bribe. They don’t realise that away teams get 15% allocation in the FA Cup (if they choose to take it up). Yet not one of them ever points any of this out to the others - they just feed each others’ petty delusional. RTG is the ne plus ultra of Internet echo chambers

They’re now FEWMING that we’ve gave them our share of the gate. Conspiracy that we got 6,000 tickets by promising this, because the rules of the FA Cup are a mystery on Wearside.

Best player we have, and has the potential to be the best player we’ve ever had. If we can work out how to keep him fit, he’s a £150m forward. He’d score 30+ a season.

I bet they write themselves valentines cards

It’s all they’ve got left. A couple of their bubbles - ‘we’d beat these, they’re overrated’ and ‘haven’t beaten us for XX years’ went today. They won’t be able to cope - made up other ‘x fan in peace’ shite is the thread they’re clinging to