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Terraloon

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  1. Newcastle v Man City 1-2 Arsenal v Leicester 3-1 Brentford v West Ham2-0 Chelsea v Brighton 2-1 Everton v Palace 1-2 Forest v Fulham 1-1 Wolves v Liverpool. 1-3 Ipswich v Villa 1-0 Man United v Spurs 2-0 Bournemouth v Southampton 3-0
  2. Gameweek 5 West Ham v Chelsea 1-2 Villa v Wolves 3-1 Fulham v Newcastle1-1 Leicester v Everton2-1 Liverpool v Bournemouth 1-0 Southampton v Ipswich 1-1 Spurs v Brentford 2-0 Palace v Man United 2-1 Brighton v Forest 3-1 Man City v Arsenal 2-0 Chosen game
  3. Chelsea self reported for what appeared to be incomplete information. That may indeed mean paying people off the books but it is nothing like Rangers issues nor is it clear cut what that meant or indeed just how far the PL have been able to establish matters without Input ( I would guess ) from the previous regime. Having been involved in many an investigation of football clubs I can assure you that most clubs push matters indeed the recent settlement between HMRC and NUFC suggests that all was far from clear cut in matters Newcastle.
  4. Gameweek 4 Southampton v Man United. 1-3 Brighton v Ipswich 3-0 Palace v Leicester. 2-1 Fulham v West Ham 1-1 Liverpool v Forest 3-0 Man City v Brentford 2-0 Villa v Everton 1-0 Bournemouth v Chelsea 1-1 Spurs v Arsenal 2-1 Wolves v Newcastle 1-1. Chosen Game
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    The Other 18

    To counter that I think you will find that Clearlake and Bohley still believe that they got CFC on the cheap and there is potential for significant growth. Neither can sell to anyone that wasn’t party to the original purchase. Bohley, Clearlake and the other two investors are all self made in effect they are very very successful businessmen like you I am just a observer we have absolutely no access to the business plan , the numbers or indeed documents and agreements made with the governing bodies at the point of sale. As you will have witnessed at Man Utd that historic football business models are significantly outdated and whilst I too scratch my head at times I am far from sure that the decisions being made are random , scatter gun or whatever you want to call them but what is clear is that journalists who have little knowledge of how big business works & clearly haven’t been included in the discussions are way out of their depth
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    The Other 18

    Paper income I would imagine but I don’t know what profit was actually made for all we have been told what the sale proceeds were
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    The Other 18

    As things stand save changes of note to the Articles of Association or the need for a special resolution ( which would require a 75% majority) Clearlake by virtue of their majority ownership basically can do what they want in terms of company decisions and in particular appointments at board level. It actually isn’t that unusual for very very successful and rich businessmen not to be able to work together come to that a significant number of basic business partnership end acrimoniously. Clearlake it seems are quite happy to buy the other shareholding’s so whilst I wouldn’t scream out nothing to see here it’s not a million miles away from Amanda S selling her last remaining shares in Newcastle indeed my guess would be at some point the majority owner in NUFC will be in a position, if not already, to take sole ownership
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    The Other 18

    That’s incorrect. Chelsea Football Club PLC was a holding company in that group were several others , including a company called Hotels at Chelsea. In turn CFC PLC was a subsidiary company of Fordstam. That company had one shareholder namely RA. When the sale took place CFC PLC became Chelsea Holdings it was that company that was sold meaning its assets were sold to a newly formed company called BlueCo ( 60 ish % owned by Clearlake the remaining shares in the ownership of Bohley and his partners) . So whilst owned BlueCo owns 100% of Chelsea Holdings the hotels are now directly under the control of BlueCo as opposed to under their control via another company. That said things have moved on. BlueCo have just entered into a partnership with a major group called Ascott who it seems will now take over the management and running of the hotels . Ascott are now a global partner of CFC . I know little to nothing of Ascott but it appears they are a major player in Asia. The concept of Chelsea Village as a major tourist and entertainment hub under Ken Bates has all but been wound down . At some point if the stadium is rebuilt it will be a project undertaken by BlueCo they already are buying up properties are outside the confines of the ground
  9. I think you will find that the PL clubs ( collectively) will have to pay for the costs. The PL is in effect a company and each of the clubs a shareholder. If say for instance the City case costs £20 million each club ( and I guess that would mean city as well ) would have to pay £1 million or shall I say the clubs will receive £1 million less from their central fund distribution
  10. Apologies I misread the rule 3 year cycle refers to playing in national competitions
  11. The three year cycle I believe can only be applied if clubs have qualified for a UEFa Licence ( participated ) in European competitions for three consecutive years. Also I am not sure that Clubs that use FRS accounting principles ( amortisation etc) can opt to use the method you describe
  12. It’s moved on a bit in that BlueCo entered into an agreement with a company called Ascott who are now managing the hotels. Ascott and Chelsea are now in a strategic partnership whereby Ascott are now Chelsea’s “ Global Hotel Partners” I know little to nothing about Ascott but they seem to be marketing stays at the hotel linked to hospitality games , tours etc . There is a launch event in the next week or two and although the numbers haven’t been made public but at the moment we seem to be announcing a number of global partnerships generally the suggestion is they are worth around a million or two PA but the Ascott one seems to be worth a far bit more I had seen it suggested it was circa £7 -£10 million PA
  13. It’s worth looking at the latest information is that we have 35 “ senior” professionals ironically that is said to be the same number as Newcastle https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-chelsea/startseite/verein/631/saison_id/2024 https://www.transfermarkt.com/newcastle-united/startseite/verein/762/saison_id/2024 In our 35 we have 10 under the age of 21 . I don’t think you have half that number under 21s
  14. He does. Toney is far more savvy, and would finish 75% of the guilt edged chances that Jackson misses.
  15. Gameweek 3 Arsenal v Brighton 3-1 Brentford v Southampton 2-0 Everton v Bournemouth 1-1 Ipswich v Fulham 2-1 Leicester v Villa1-4 Forest v Wolves 2-0 Chosen Game West Ham v Man City 1-3 Chelsea v Palace 1-1 Newcastle v Spurs 1-2 Man United v Liverpool 2-1
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    Marc Guehi

    They could of course loan the money, increase Equity even gift the money or the like from their own funds but that isn’t the problem the PSR/FFp submissions will look at the expenditure irrespective of how the money has been paid
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    Marc Guehi

    I would be staggered if your officials don’t have a plan b , plan c maybe even a plan d if it had s been identified that you have a need for a CD. Place are monsters to deal with but what has complicated matters is they have just sold on one CD and really aren’t awash with options. They likewise will be testing the water with their options list.On top of that they have a wealthy shareholder desperately trying to sell their shareholding. Of course Palace will try and get as much as they can if the do indeed agree to sell the player the 20-25% profit they will have to play us isn’t an insignificant liability. If the transfer is going to happen it will take place in the next 3 days . Palace themselves need to sign replacements and ironically they delay to get a better price may work against them when not having time to negotiate as hard as they would want
  18. I was referring to you r comment about players going out on loan . Than and the fact that a lot of clubs still have squads way too big and have a lot of business to do https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/premier-league/startseite/wettbewerb/GB1
  19. The rule change re loans in that numbers of non academy players is restricted and currently we are at either 3 or 4 of those have already been used. It’s something that will bite a significant number of clubs not just Chelsea It might be worth spending a minute or two looking at the size of other clubs squad . It might surprise you similarly look at how many players clubs have “ got off their wages “ since 1/7/24. Chillwell is slightly different in that he was given an extended contact of a year or two and to a degree so is Sterling because he was bought in as a marquee signing by the new owners albeit he has failed massively but the big wages paid to Lukaku and Kepa were bought in under RA and under his tenure were deemed not wanted the majority of players on that list of not wanted aren’t on the massive wages some are suggesting and there almost certainly will be takers for most of the others such as Broja, D Fofana, Chalobah, Anjorin etc.
  20. Not surprisingly much of our woes are of our own making but if Sterling goes his £24 million cost PA will be reduced significantly in season 24/25 and eliminated totally in years 25/26&26/27 .
  21. They have . As I posted yesterday his decline has been rapid and significant.
  22. I think the fact that he was told that he wasn’t wanted, for whatever reason, has hurt him. He hasn’t really ever had much go against him since the day he left QPR. His outburst was to a degree a knee jerk but he has been in the game for long enough to have seen it happen other players as I say it’s something he hasn’t had to deal with before There was a lot of chatter some years ago about him during his time at Liverpool much of that had nothing to do with anyone other than those directly involved and for sure he got dogs abuse in the press and there clearly were references to his colour . He also got abuse in a game against us some seasons ago. No player should have to deal with the abuse some supporters think they are entitled to hand out it certainly isn’t as bad as it was but still away to go.
  23. Even though I would be delighted to see him move on he really isn’t a player that any of you really should be wanting. Having watched him closely it’s easy to see why some think he is still a top player because they remember those odd moments where he does something or scores the odd goal but his overall contribution isn’t close to what he should be contributing he runs up a blind alley or misses chances that players of his experience should bury with ease. Anyone remember our game last season in the FA cup against Leicester? There was no coincidence that his England career is almost certainly done nor is it a coincidence that even under Poch his number of minutes significantly declined particularly post Christmas 23 which ironically coincided with our up turn in form. His contribution is woeful I think it’s akin to Michael Owen burst on the scene young and ok Owen had a major injury but Sterling is in rapid decline. Of course he is contracted to Chelsea for another 3 years and yes he could sit it out but he won’t . He has been told to find another club from what is being said there was an offer from Saudi but I doubt that will be where he will end up. In relation to having too many players yep 40 is too many , that’s how many we currently have in our squad it certainly won’t be that number come 30/8 but even then business can be done with Saudi clubs for approximately another 5 weeks.
  24. There has been a bit of chatter about him going to a European team. Although most clubs in Europe want top dollar when you buy one of theirs but won’t pay decent when they buy. You have to take a lot of is being spouted and as a consequence reported at the moment. I try to be neutral to a degree He is a player that flatters to deceive. When he picks the ball up and runs at a defence you go wow. But he chooses the wrong option time after time still young so relatively high ceiling but question his attitude as evidenced when he fought with two others to take a penalty where it was obvious who would be taking it
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