ohmelads Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 He's being introduced to the prem in stages, same as Beye was. He'll probably get more than a half next game then playing full games from then on...... Is this the same Beye who was thrown straight into the squad for Derby and has started every game since? He's our only right-back and a Champions League class player. Enough said. Hence he wasn't introduced in stages, as was originally made out. Don't mean to be pedantic but I found it a strange comparison. I understand the need to ease Enrique in, but if he's not ready now then when will he be ready to start a Premiership match? It's not as if he's 17 or 18, he's 21 and has plenty of experience in La Liga under his belt playing for several clubs. He'll only get Premiership experience by playing Premiership games and as has been pointed out, his absence causes problems in two positions. We need him in the team and he needs the games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 anyone who thinks N'zogbia should play at LB needs talking to, he's both wasted and a liability there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesmartinsmith Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 anyone who thinks N'zogbia should play at LB needs talking to, he's both wasted and a liability there Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmymag Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 anyone who thinks N'zogbia should play at LB needs talking to, he's both wasted and a liability there As underlined by his performance yesterday. Sam must start Enrique next week if he's fit and I've no reason to believe he isn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 How long should it take a 21 year old professional athlete, who cost over £6 million, to get match fit so that he can play Premiership football on a regular basis? What exactly has his transfer fee got to do with this? How about this: Q. How long should it take a 21 year old professional athlete to get physically fit so that he can play Premiership football on a regular basis? A. Depends on his level of physical fitness when he arrived. Obvious, innit. His transfer fee is usually an indication of his ability. If he's as good as people say he is why isn't he playing? That's all I want to know. Transfer fee's mean nothing know in determining ability. All of Spurs signings for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesmartinsmith Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 He's being introduced to the prem in stages, same as Beye was. He'll probably get more than a half next game then playing full games from then on...... Is this the same Beye who was thrown straight into the squad for Derby and has started every game since? He's our only right-back and a Champions League class player. Enough said. Hence he wasn't introduced in stages, as was originally made out. Don't mean to be pedantic but I found it a strange comparison. I understand the need to ease Enrique in, but if he's not ready now then when will he be ready to start a Premiership match? It's not as if he's 17 or 18, he's 21 and has plenty of experience in La Liga under his belt playing for several clubs. He'll only get Premiership experience by playing Premiership games and as has been pointed out, his absence causes problems in two positions. We need him in the team and he needs the games. I feel the same. But we cannot rush him, he'll be prone to making mistakes or could get injured if he is not fully fit. N'Zogbia has done a relatively good job at left-back, but if Enrique is fit, he must start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Enrique looked good to me when he came on. Should start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Enrique looked good to me when he came on. Should start. Needs another 4 months to get used to the weather before we can start him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Enrique looked good to me when he came on. Should start. Needs another 4 months to get used to the weather before we can start him. Looked pretty podgy to me when he signed. Probably not fit enough for Sam yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 it's worrying to be honest, a while back i was confident that he wouldn't start as i knew SA would intergrate him, but now it does seem he is fit, and from one of SA's quotes it seems to me that Zog is keeping him out the side, which if you ask me is even more worrying, as Zog is better employed elsewhere. It's worrying because i cant see how anyone could think that Zog is an asset at LB, its clear, when he so much more suited to the left of midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 He should start yesterday the only problem in my opinion is if Sam push Zon into LW I think he doesn't know who he drop from Smith, Butt, and Germi. Very easy one to be fair Smith. For me Smith should be our fourth striker in the club nothing more or less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 anyone else starting to think Enrique showed up for his first training session in gloves and sam did a backflip? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Following Ferguson's slow easing of Evra into the ManU first team, and the drastic improvement in Evra's performances to the extent that hes now arguably the best left back in the country, I think its a good idea to ease Enrique into Premiership football, no matter whether hes fully fit or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Zoggy at LB is a disaster. It makes more sense to put Rozy at LB and Taylor at CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Zoggy at LB is a disaster I am not sure how, it is not if all the goals going in are down his flank. He is also scoring & creating goals from LB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Zoggy at LB is a disaster I am not sure how, it is not if all the goals going in are down his flank. He is also scoring & creating goals from LB. That's because he just plays like a left winger. I can't remember any good defensive action from him yesterday. When he should be behind a striker he's in front of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nufc222 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Liverpool did not start Dan Agger for 7 months after he signed age 20, sam knows what he is doing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jamesmartinsmith Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Evra's performances to the extent that hes now arguably the best left back in the country, Please tell me you aren't being serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Following Ferguson's slow easing of Evra into the ManU first team, and the drastic improvement in Evra's performances to the extent that hes now arguably the best left back in the country, I think its a good idea to ease Enrique into Premiership football, no matter whether hes fully fit or not. Wasn't Evra signed in the January window? Therefore he didn't have a pre-season with his team-mates etc. If Enrique doesn't start soon, more and more fans will be asking questions and the pressure on his shoulders will be even greater. Bear in mind we don't have Heinze or Silvestre to throw in while he acclimatises, the team needs him and the fans know that. A couple of months down the line it's not like the sun will be shining and he'll be speaking fluent English either. He'll have teething problems, most foreign players do, but they overcome that by playing games which I dare say helped Evra. I hope he'll start against Everton, but I thought he'd start yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Everton will be a hard match for him to start, Arteta was cracking today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Everton will be a hard match for him to start, Arteta was cracking today. Aye but we've got to show some faith in our left back, we paid £6m for him so we obviously rate him very highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggs Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 fit enough to start i guess but fat sam too spineless to drop one of his 3 golden boys in centre midfield to change our shape to accomadate him imho. funny how sams so spineless that he will refuse to drop smith but not so spineless that he will keep shay given out of the team when harper has done nowt to lose his place. wonder wheather our chairman having smiths name on his back for all to see has much to do with it but i might be reading a bit too much into that given and harper are not fat sams signings so hes not bothered about that imho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 wonder wheather our chairman having smiths name on his back for all to see has much to do with it but i might be reading a bit too much into that That crossed my mind as well. Smith's signing made little sense in terms of squad building or indeed the first team. The fact we're putting him on the right wing is testament to that. But seeing Ashley turning up to games with Smith on his back does make you wonder, he seems undroppable at the moment yet he's offering the team nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howaythelads Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 wonder wheather our chairman having smiths name on his back for all to see has much to do with it but i might be reading a bit too much into that That crossed my mind as well. Smith's signing made little sense in terms of squad building or indeed the first team. The fact we're putting him on the right wing is testament to that. But seeing Ashley turning up to games with Smith on his back does make you wonder, he seems undroppable at the moment yet he's offering the team nothing. Played better than most yesterday, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Following Ferguson's slow easing of Evra into the ManU first team, and the drastic improvement in Evra's performances to the extent that hes now arguably the best left back in the country, I think its a good idea to ease Enrique into Premiership football, no matter whether hes fully fit or not. Wasn't Evra signed in the January window? Therefore he didn't have a pre-season with his team-mates etc. If Enrique doesn't start soon, more and more fans will be asking questions and the pressure on his shoulders will be even greater. well at bolton sam didn't have to contend with the same numbers of brain dead idiots who will start getting jumpy cause a player isn't thrown in at the deap end after 24 hours in the country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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