Tom_NUFC Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Pros: As already mentioned, he understands the club and supporters and what it's all about, as an ex-player, a fan and a Geordie. A point my brother made is that if you look at the last 20 years, the managers who've done the best at NUFC are those that understand the club - Keegan and Robson. Going further back beyond 20 years, you could also include Joe Harvey. He would get a lot of support from the fans, and everyone would be on his side, and wanting him to succeed. Cons: That's massive pressure. Totally inexperienced as a manager, who knows how he'll turn out. History is littered with great players who made crap managers. His criticisms of Arsenal's attractive football makes me worry a little bit. It is a big, big risk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Pros: As already mentioned, he understands the club and supporters and what it's all about, as an ex-player, a fan and a Geordie. A point my brother made is that if you look at the last 20 years, the managers who've done the best at NUFC are those that understand the club - Keegan and Robson. Going further back beyond 20 years, you could also include Joe Harvey. He would get a lot of support from the fans, and everyone would be on his side, and wanting him to succeed. Cons: That's massive pressure. Totally inexperienced as a manager, who knows how he'll turn out. History is littered with great players who made crap managers. His criticisms of Arsenal's attractive football makes me worry a little bit. It is a big, big risk. Whats he said about Arsenal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 pros: keegan as advisor / assistant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Knightrider Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Pros: As already mentioned, he understands the club and supporters and what it's all about, as an ex-player, a fan and a Geordie. A point my brother made is that if you look at the last 20 years, the managers who've done the best at NUFC are those that understand the club - Keegan and Robson. Going further back beyond 20 years, you could also include Joe Harvey. He would get a lot of support from the fans, and everyone would be on his side, and wanting him to succeed. Cons: That's massive pressure. Totally inexperienced as a manager, who knows how he'll turn out. History is littered with great players who made crap managers. His criticisms of Arsenal's attractive football makes me worry a little bit. It is a big, big risk. Whats he said about Arsenal He's actually said some pretty insightful stuff about their play, that if they want to win the league they are going to have to adopt a different attitude and game plan in certain games because no team these days can play that kind of football every game and get away with it and to be fair, we porved that with our 1-1 draw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 There are quite a few peos and cons, nearly all of which are pointles, as he hasn't managed before. Poeple seem to have negativity towards him because they want to. There is a huge chance that he could go on to manage this club for years to come, purely because he will have 99% of the fans on side from the start and that to me is the most important thing. The only other person who could achieve that is Jose at the moment, anyone else will be a dead man walking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Shearer's biggest hurdle (assuming he wants the job) is that it's Ashley's money and Ashley might not feel comfortable about blowing a lot of money on an unknown quantity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 i wonder what shearer's team would be with us, or what his general management style would be? would be interesting to speculate about this. looking at his career and what he's said about it, i think his biggest influences would be dalglish and to a lesser extent venables, so is likely to take cues from them. venables was relatively innovative tactically and favoured players with intelligence, technique and flair, whereas dalglish was a straight forward, orthodox 4-4-2 man, utilising big-man, small-man combos up front, fast wingers, a defensive midfielder and an attacking one, but didn't have many flair players. looking at the game from shearer's perspective, he's likely to appreciate best the parts of their play that made his job - scoring goals - easier. so chris sutton or mike newell doing aerial battling for shearer would stick in his mind - shearer was instrumental in the signing of ferguson under gullit as he wanted to resurrect the kind of partnerships he had before his major injury. though at the same time shearer has publicly criticised crouch as being immobile and not good enough for top level so that suggests he can see the limitations of such a figure. wilcox and ripley tearing down the flanks providing crosses would be another, two direct traditional wingers who get to the byline and cross it. i'd imagine he prefers that type of winger, perhaps over robert or solano. from venable's england tenure sheringham is most likely to stand out as a playmaking, deep-lying forward with class and vision who laid plenty on the plate for shearer (similar to viduka maybe?). naturally he'd have a number 9 in there, his good mate michael owen probably, even tho such forwards are in short supply in the modern game. i wonder if he'd also appreciate robson bringing in bellamy, to be shearer's legs. that would certainly be relevant in the case of michael owen who may need a similar partner to do his running for him, an anelka or benjani type. oh and if he has any sense about him he'd also learn from his spat with ruud gullit how not to man-manage a squad. tho his advice for rooney to 'stick one' on ronaldo isn't exactly encouraging, nor his apparent backing of souness in the bellamy spat. he's also slammed foreign players during those talk-ins, i can only remember albert and maybe solano as foreigners he had any kinship with (maybe im missing someone), and tormented poor alessandro pistone when he was here, so i'm not sure how he'll take to them as manager. then again approaching such players from the detached, objective viewpoint of the manager is different from the banter of being a fellow player and i'm sure he's aloof enough to maintain professional distance. he also needs to understand that not every player is as talented or dedicated as he was and that it is his paid job to deal with this, something roy keane is struggling with at sunderland, clarke carlisle just blasted him in the press. i think what some of this shows is that the game has moved on since blackburn won the title or euro 96, when shearer was at his peak. i'm sure he knows this so its likely he has his own ideas about what tactics and methods will be successful nowadays and the only way we'll find out is if he is named manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 he would be terrible in the transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keefaz Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 he would be terrible in the transfer market. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 Communication wise how is he? monolingual? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 he would be terrible in the transfer market. He'd also change the colour of the carpets at the club* *The above is unfounded nonsense, much like the post I quoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovejoy Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 pro's - knows the club and how it works up here. would get full backing and time. con's - lack of experience. terry mac would probably still have a job Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 he would be terrible in the transfer market. Why? i guarantee you he wouldn't of heard of half the players doing good things in Italy, Portgual, Spain etc. Therefore i don't see many foreign signings and sticking to 'good, honest' players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 he would be terrible in the transfer market. Why? i guarantee you he wouldn't of heard of half the players doing good things in Italy, Portgual, Spain etc. Therefore i don't see many foreign signings and sticking to 'good, honest' players "good, honest players".........that'd be a welcome change. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 he would be terrible in the transfer market. Why? i guarantee you he wouldn't of heard of half the players doing good things in Italy, Portgual, Spain etc. Therefore i don't see many foreign signings and sticking to 'good, honest' players "good, honest players".........that'd be a welcome change. Smith, Butt, Milner would sit in that category. Depressingly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heero Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 i won't say no to shearer managing us, we had so many managers how did they do. he can't do any worse! pros: bringin the passion back in the team, respect from the players and fans cons: can't do any worse then the last few managers did here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 he would be terrible in the transfer market. Why? i guarantee you he wouldn't of heard of half the players doing good things in Italy, Portgual, Spain etc. Therefore i don't see many foreign signings and sticking to 'good, honest' players "good, honest players".........that'd be a welcome change. Smith, Butt, Milner would sit in that category. Depressingly. Good !! that would only apply to Milner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 he would be terrible in the transfer market. Why? i guarantee you he wouldn't of heard of half the players doing good things in Italy, Portgual, Spain etc. Therefore i don't see many foreign signings and sticking to 'good, honest' players You're a WUM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Pros: Nobody else wants it Cons: He may prefer MotD This just about sums up the whole situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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