Tooj Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Loved the passion he showed, his eyes were red when he was taken off, i think he may have been crying. Pathetic by KK taking him off instead of Barton who was fucking TERRIBLE Not really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 We needed to make sure we did not concede late on so I understand why KK did what he did, but for me it should have been Viduka to come off, it was however good to see KK make sure he did not let Oba just storm past him, he was devastated to be taken off but Kev was not going to let any bad feeling fester. NICE ONE KEV We need Oba on the pitch though for 90 mins every game for the rest of the season, he is the difference for us, Owen would not have got his goal if it had not been for Martins persistence!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 For me Oba has to start every game, It's ridiculous that he's still our top scorer even though he's not scored since before xmas due to the ACN's. I thought last night he was our biggest threat although I would like to see him play with a single player in the team who have a creative bone in their body instead of the drone we had in midfield last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1267945,00.html KK OK With Oba's Passion Play By Craig Hope KEVIN Keegan says that he has no problem with Oba Martins' reaction to being substituted at Birmingham City on Monday night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 You'd think he was subbed off at half time the way people are going on. Played well last night, as did Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Logic Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I saw numerous signs last night that they could form an effective partnership last night. The more they are given the opportunity to play together the more they will prove that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I can't believe this thread btw. KK out because he subbed off everybody's favourite! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I can't believe this thread btw. KK out because he subbed off everybody's favourite! He did the right thing just took off the wrong striker.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Thought Owen scored the equaliser last night. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Thought Owen scored the equaliser last night. Aye, sure I saw that as well. I do love Oba though, so important he is back now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Thought Owen scored the equaliser last night. Aye, sure I saw that as well. I do love Oba though, so important he is back now. Aye Owen did well to beat the defenders to it, but it was all about Oba's determination that created the chance... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I know, it's just this jizz-fest (as ever re: Martins) is way over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Thought Owen scored the equaliser last night. Aye, sure I saw that as well. I do love Oba though, so important he is back now. Both of them can score loads of goals when they just get the ball in space! I didn't like Viduka's performance yesterday as he looked really clumsy and extremely slow with the ball... Just add some pace in our play and it will work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I know, it's just this jizz-fest (as ever re: Martins) is way over the top. he seems to get that even when on the bench though, he gets taken off and they sing for him, Owen scores they sing for Oba, he starts on the bench he is sang for, he is the spark in the team and the fans know it, leaving him on would have gave us more of a chance of nicking it than it did leaving Dukes on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 You'd think he was subbed off at half time the way people are going on. Played well last night, as did Owen. what would the reaction have been like if Owen had made such a fuss in being subbed... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I like the 4-3-3 idea but we need a more mobile big central striker, Viduka looks like he is in quicksand. Imagine Owen and Oba either side of someone like Kenwyn Jones.. -----------Owen------------------Martins ----------------------Jones with a strong three man midfield behind them, its the way of the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I wouldn't be disappointed to see Carroll given a go there, off the bench at least - he can move about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I wouldn't be disappointed to see Carroll given a go there, off the bench at least - he can move about. Aye maybe, just have not seen enough of him to know weather or not he has enough in his game to be able to hold it up and bring in players around him. He is 100% more mobile than Viduka is though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 I can see why Viduka is persevered with though, I mean he can produce a goal out of nothing at times... just his fitness/mobility is more like a tortoise than a footballer. Yep, Carroll is obv inexperienced, not sure whether now is the time to take a chance on him. Might be worth 20 mins when Duke is knackered though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What I find laughable is that Owen has missed more sitters than Martins this season. He has scored less goals even though he has had more starts... yet he is supposedly the best forward at the club even though he has no left foot and little pace. Again, people forgetting the 2 months leading upto January. He's scored 6-7 goals, and I think most of them came by October. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What I find laughable is that Owen has missed more sitters than Martins this season. He has scored less goals even though he has had more starts... yet he is supposedly the best forward at the club even though he has no left foot and little pace. Again, people forgetting the 2 months leading upto January. He's scored 6-7 goals, and I think most of them came by October. Martins was abysmal before the ACN, but he's now returned and for all the minutes he's been on the pitch since he's returned, he's looked dangerous as soon as he gets the ball. I was much more confident in something happening when he had the ball than when any other player in our team had it. We're desperate for a player like Martins, and it's ludicrous not to use him when he's available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Owen and Martins have scored the same amount of goals as it happens. Martins has scored one more in the league. The number of starts is virtually identical too. Neither offer very much other than goals imo. What I find laughable though is that fans of one player (I'm a fan of the team myself like) constantly use the stats of one to try and bash the other. Yet last night we found there is some potential in playing both of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 What I would say, is that Martins has to start, then it should be who plays alongside, that's the question. Said in the other thread, Viduka is the one who is dispensable out of the three strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Owen and Martins have scored the same amount of goals as it happens. Martins has scored one more in the league. The number of starts is virtually identical too. Neither offer very much other than goals imo. What I find laughable though is that fans of one player (I'm a fan of the team myself like) constantly use the stats of one to try and bash the other. Yet last night we found there is some potential in playing both of them. We've had both of them at the club for nearly two years, and they've started like three games together. I bet you that defenders will shit themselves if Owen and Martins were both in form and playing together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 18, 2008 Share Posted March 18, 2008 Out of Owen, Martins and Viduka I'd say they all offer different things with none of them being particularly outstanding and each having significant downsides to their game too. I'd be inclined to play Martins though because of the lack of pace in the side and playing him means the opposition have to defend deeper which creates more space for us when we attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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