Skirge Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Keep them both but not as 1st choice, if we are sticking with the 4-3-3 then we need a Claude Makelele type and another box to box Joey Barton type, or maybe 2 Joey's if he go's down.. ---------------Given Beye-------?----------?-------Enrique ------------------? -----Barton---------------------? ------Owen----------------Martins ----------------Gomis Harper Faye Taylor Edgar Ramage Geremi Butt Milner Zoggy Duff Emre Viduka Carroll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 No chance, but Carrick would be an ideal signing if we're going with 4-3-3. So would Berbatov to play in Vidukas role. Kaka could play in Owen's position. No he couldn't. Berbatov looks on his way out of Spurs, not that impossible to be honest. Carrick is though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest float one in Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 No chance, but Carrick would be an ideal signing if we're going with 4-3-3. So would Berbatov to play in Vidukas role. Kaka could play in Owen's position. Gordon Banks could play in nets as well. Has the makings of a canny team this like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 No chance, but Carrick would be an ideal signing if we're going with 4-3-3. So would Berbatov to play in Vidukas role. Kaka could play in Owen's position. Gordon Banks could play in nets as well. Has the makings of a canny team this like. I get it. I'll never suggest an ideal signing ever again. Never. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 No chance, but Carrick would be an ideal signing if we're going with 4-3-3. So would Berbatov to play in Vidukas role. Kaka could play in Owen's position. Gordon Banks could play in nets as well. Has the makings of a canny team this like. I get it. I'll never suggest an ideal signing ever again. Never. Sorry, I assumed you were taking the piss too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 No chance, but Carrick would be an ideal signing if we're going with 4-3-3. So would Berbatov to play in Vidukas role. Kaka could play in Owen's position. Gordon Banks could play in nets as well. Has the makings of a canny team this like. I get it. I'll never suggest an ideal signing ever again. Never. Sorry, I assumed you were taking the piss too. Carrick and Berbatov have been mentioned hundreds of times on this forum. I've always assumed it was a piss take? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 No chance, but Carrick would be an ideal signing if we're going with 4-3-3. So would Berbatov to play in Vidukas role. Kaka could play in Owen's position. Gordon Banks could play in nets as well. Has the makings of a canny team this like. I get it. I'll never suggest an ideal signing ever again. Never. Sorry, I assumed you were taking the piss too. Carrick and Berbatov have been mentioned hundreds of times on this forum. I've always assumed it was a piss take? Hark at you Mr Sensible! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ObaStar Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 carrick is more realistic than berbatov who has been linked to AC milan and the like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 I think Keegan's comments when praising Owen said a lot about the failings of our current midfield and what he'll look to bring in. Players with decent technical ability who can pass the ball around and look comfortable in possession is what he'll go for IMO, a ball playing holding man similar to Carrick in style and 2 midfielders to play either side of him, preferably modern day winger type's like Bentley. I can also see him getting 2 new attacking fullbacks to make up for our lack of width. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Ideally, I'd like to see us buy two good centre backs, and then move Faye into Butt's position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shearer_united Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Its all about effective communication.. Butt is nearing his end of his career but he did prove his worth a lot in recent games. What I do want is to see the Captain's ArmBand handed over to Alan Smith. He should be our captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Ideally, I'd like to see us buy two good centre backs, and then move Faye into Butt's position. Is Faye's distribution upto it though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Ideally, I'd like to see us buy two good centre backs, and then move Faye into Butt's position. Is Faye's distribution upto it though? I think so, yeah. Better than Butt, for sure, and midfield is actually his preferred position. It'd also be good to have that extra aerial power at both ends of the pitch, because otherwise we're not a particularly big side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Ideally, I'd like to see us buy two good centre backs, and then move Faye into Butt's position. Is Faye's distribution upto it though? I think so, yeah. Better than Butt, for sure, and midfield is actually his preferred position. It'd also be good to have that extra aerial power at both ends of the pitch, because otherwise we're not a particularly big side. Deffo bigger engine than Butt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 for those that say keegan won't want a defensive mid and wants a rob lee/gary speed type player. What about David Batty(defensive mid) and signed for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Needed; Harper Beye Faye CB Enrique DM Barton AM Martins Viduka Owen My (semi- realistic) recommendations; CB- Dunne, Pique, Ben Haim DM- Carrick, Diaby AM, Deco, Diego, VDV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 van der Vaart is linked to Juventus, or else "der Bayern" will probably snap him, which is what they do with just about every single player who proves himself in Bundesliga. José Paulo Guerrero has been mentioned in some threads, would be a good striker complement. Wasn't Keegan interested in Daniel van Buyten in january? Would be a very good addition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jungle Barry Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Ideally, I'd like to see us buy two good centre backs, and then move Faye into Butt's position. Is Faye's distribution upto it though? I think so, yeah. Better than Butt, for sure, and midfield is actually his preferred position. It'd also be good to have that extra aerial power at both ends of the pitch, because otherwise we're not a particularly big side. He was great in the centre of the park against man city at home (well relatively cos we were pretty poor overall) Distribution didn't look too shabby to be fair could be a decent option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Geremi and Butt have been getting up and down the pitch quite well in the 4-3-3 formation. I would have thought if anyone needs to be replaced by a younger better version it would be Viduka. Quality player but has never looked fit since he arrived. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Geremi and Butt have been getting up and down the pitch quite well in the 4-3-3 formation. I would have thought if anyone needs to be replaced by a younger better version it would be Viduka. Quality player but has never looked fit since he arrived. at the moment the formation is covering for some of their physical weaknesses so they are less of the burning issue they were in a 4-4-2. for instance butt and geremi have an extra hand in midfield to cover for their lack of legs, owen has strength, skill and movement ahead of him to compensate for his frailty and lack of vision & pace, and so on for the others. so it's really a clever fit for the bunch we have. the problem we have bringing others in is getting the balance right across the front-three and midfield trio. You'd look at Geremi and Butt as being players who we want to upgrade on but they're both technically decent, butt reads the game well and geremi makes us tick when on the ball (plus he is one of the most creative in our squad). if you replace geremi with someone of similar qualities, but better and more mobile, you're looking at someone like Bentley or Arteta. yet do they have the ability to play centrally and defend like he does? so buying them has the knock-on effect of needing a more robust defensive duo than Barton and Butt, without sacrificing Butt's nous and Barton's legs. so effectively if you change one cog in the midfield you need to replace/tweak the others in order to ensure they work as a cohesive engine. Viduka i think has been the least impressive of the front-six, though he is essential to the side as he has strength and the creativity to help make openings, as well as providing goals himself. People have mentioned Gomis but he doesn't have the same guile so i don't think he'd work with Martins and Owen. If we bring in a Viduka-upgrade it has to be a skilful player like Berbatov imo because that - along with a bit of presence - is the main thing Martins and Owen as a pair lack and need alongside them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Yes, we need better next season. No, I would not replace either in the remaining nine games. They are our best options right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShearMagic Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 I'd keep them, just for backup. Nicky Butt has been immense in our last two matches, but regardless, he's still getting on a bit, and is a bit slower than he used to be. But, to have him in the squad as back-up would be very handy. Same goes for Geremi, although I've been more and more impressed with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Maybe all the players/talent in our squad just needed a bit of love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teepee Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 actually i think that geremi, butt, emre, barton are all better suited for a three man midfield than the centre pairing of a four man line up. but if we are to move up the table we need to bring in two cm's no matter what. especially a good dcm as butt shouldn't play another full season for us. oh, and i'd rather see geremi in the side than barton tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 No chance, but Carrick would be an ideal signing if we're going with 4-3-3. So would Berbatov to play in Vidukas role. Kaka could play in Owen's position. No he couldn't. Berbatov looks on his way out of Spurs, not that impossible to be honest. Carrick is though. If anything, I'd say it's the other way around. Berbatov will join a bigger club, if Man Utd sign another midfielder, Carrick might be deemed surplus to requirements, and I can't see one of the other top 4 clubs going for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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