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womblemaster

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Yes its that time of year again!  when all the dole wallers spend the last days of the season trying to work out the league tables finishing positions!

 

SO agains i ask the question.....Is 7th or 8th place going to the intertoto?

 

1. Lets assume that Portsmouth make it too  the final of the fa cup.  If they win that takes them out of the uefa spots??

 

 

However i have some vague remembrance of 1 less slot this year??

 

 

Anyone reckon they got this all worked out?

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Guest alex

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If Portsmouth come 6th and win the FA Cup, 6th place in the league gets in the Uefa Cup. Coincidentally though.

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5th is guaranteed UEFA.

6th place is taken by league cup winners ( unless the winner is already in Europe); as that is us this season and we are not in a european place, that place is taken off the league.

7th place would go to league if both finalists in the FA cup had already qualified for Europe. If Pompey win it, and finish 5th, the place will go to 6th. If they win it and finish outside the top five, only 5th will enter europe from the league.

 

So- we have qualified for UEFA by winning the league cup.

   -Everton are likely to qualify for finishing 5th

   -Winner of the FA cup gets in

   -6th place will get intertoto if pompey win the fa cup and don't finish in 6th or if they don't win it at all; if they do, the place may go to 7th place.

   -City may still qualify from the fair play league table

 

http://www.premierleague.com/page/FairPlayTable/0,,12306,00.html

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I'm assuming further league places have often been a UEFA Cup spot in the past because both FA Cup finalists and the CC winners have been already in the CL (ie top four sides)?

 

And that can't happen this year because Spurs have the UEFA Cup via the CC?

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ShearMagic

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There is no way possible 6th in the league will qualify you for the UEFA Cup.

 

The 3 places go to:

 

- 5th in the league

- FA Cup winner (or if they've already qualified for Europe, the runner up)

- League Cup winner (or if they've already qualified for Europe, 6th in the league, but this year it's Spurs, so they get the spot)

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LateRegistration

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There is no UEFA spot for sixth place.

 

A simple enough fact, really.

 

Who can still qualify for Europe? 

BBC Sport runs through who can qualify for Europe and how as the 2007-08 season nears its conclusion.

 

 

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

 

The top four teams in the Premier League will qualify for the Champions League.

606: DEBATE

Who do you think will qualify for Europe?

 

If a top-four team wins the Champions League, there are no extra places for English clubs.

 

If a team wins the Champions League but finishes outside the top four, they will qualify for next season's Champions League, at the expense of the fourth-placed Premier League team.

 

UEFA CUP

 

English clubs are offered three places in the Uefa Cup - for the FA Cup winners, the Carling Cup winners and the fifth-placed team in the Premier League.

 

Tottenham have qualified for the Uefa Cup by winning the Carling Cup.

 

Should a team finishing in the top four in the Premier League win the FA Cup (still technically possible in Portsmouth), the Uefa Cup place would go to the team finishing sixth in the league.

 

If Cardiff City win the FA Cup then, as it stands, they are not allowed to qualify for the Uefa Cup because they are registered with the Football Association of Wales and would not be put forward as one of England's representatives. In that instance, the FA Cup runners-up would take their place in the Uefa Cup - although the Football Association are reviewing their rules.

 

FA to review Cardiff's Uefa case

 

As mentioned aboved, if a team wins the Champions League but finishes outside the top four, then a Uefa Cup place will go to the fourth-placed team.

 

If Portsmouth win the FA Cup and finish fifth in the Premier League, the sixth-placed team in the league would enter the Uefa Cup, not the FA Cup runners-up.

 

ADDITIONAL PLACES

 

Intertoto Cup: England can gain an additional Uefa Cup place by entering a team into and winning the Intertoto Cup.

 

Uefa Fair Play League: In order to be eligible for one of the three places available via the Fair Play League, an association must score an average of over eight. The top association gets a Uefa Cup place, while all other associations with an average of over eight (there are currently eight) are placed into a ballot.

England are currently top of the Fair Play League. If they win the Uefa Cup place, it is given to the team placed highest in the Premier League Fair Play League that has not qualified by other means.

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7292892.stm

 

 

Simple indeed.

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they really should give a euro place to the team finishing top of the bottom half..

 

Or just write it into the rules that we get a place however well we do eh?

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they really should give a euro place to the team finishing top of the bottom half..

 

Or just write it into the rules that we get a place however well we do eh?

 

Aye!

 

Which clubs have entered into the Intertoto cup then? Could we get in that way?

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they really should give a euro place to the team finishing top of the bottom half..

 

Or just write it into the rules that we get a place however well we do eh?

 

Aye!

 

Which clubs have entered into the Intertoto cup then? Could we get in that way?

 

Everton, Villa, Blackburn and Man City have and we can't catch any of them.

 

Uefa Fair Play League: In order to be eligible for one of the three places available via the Fair Play League, an association must score an average of over eight. The top association gets a Uefa Cup place, while all other associations with an average of over eight (there are currently eight) are placed into a ballot.

 

England are currently top of the Fair Play League. If they win the Uefa Cup place, it is given to the team placed highest in the Premier League Fair Play League that has not qualified by other means.

 

We need to play really really fairly.

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Seems like you have it all sorted here, so can I just throw a spanner in the works. What happens if Cardiff win the cup?

 

If Cardiff City win the FA Cup then, as it stands, they are not allowed to qualify for the Uefa Cup because they are registered with the Football Association of Wales and would not be put forward as one of England's representatives. In that instance, the FA Cup runners-up would take their place in the Uefa Cup - although the Football Association are reviewing their rules.

 

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4 Champions Leage entrants:

- Champions,

- Runners-up,

- Third place,

- Fourth place.

 

3 UEFA Cup entrants:

- 5th place,

- FA Cup winners (if they're already in, then the runner-up gets it),

- League Cup winners (if they're already in, the 6th place team in the league gets it).

 

1 Intertoto entrant: Highest placed team in the league who applied for entry.

 

Simple enough really :)

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