Steven Taylor

[Dave]

Cockends? I preferred this description tbh.

 

Some people wanted Edgar to get a games for some strange reason. He has went backwards big time since he first made his name in the first team.

 

Apparently to some on here he's better than Taylor.

 

Those 'some on here' though are stupid cunts at best.

 

[Guest alex]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

 

A lot of people have a problem with him being the local 100%er, no doubt about it. They think because he is that people rate him higher than he is so they have to take strips off him to compensate. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, the lad doesn't stand a chance with fans like ours.

 

 

Give over man. The fans were singing his name at the match. The only stick he gets is in places like this.

 

It's true this place contains loads of cockends.

You're unbelievably touchy about the lad   Having a pop for the way he went public was fair enough imo. Credit where credit's due though, he's done well lately. But how was going to the press, particularly when the club was in the shit, about his contract not going to get criticism? Especially when he was struggling as much as anyone on the pitch?

[NE5]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

I don't know? Some have, aye. It's hardly either the root or the main reason for any criticism that's been levelled at him though. That's been down to performances on the pitch. If he'd been outstanding, or even half-decent earlier in the season (when he was making contract noises - publicly I might add) then people would probably have thought he was worth a new, improved contract (which he has been offered anyway iirc).

 

simple fact is Alex, some people judge personalities instead of performance. Its obvious in this thread and among the Taylor bashers, a lot of the criticism is because people DO say "not worth 52k a week, get rid of the shitebag" ... [words to that effect] .... without attempting to move the thread but to cement my comment, how many people were glad to see the back of Bellamy because he was a **** and a liar [see current thread ] and also people slate the old board for personalities too rather than running a club that attempted to punch its weight, showed ambition and did really well all round although obviously not as well as we all hoped they would but better than most.

 

The club should give Taylor that contract. They should also move quickly to sign Owen up again. They should try to persuade zoggy to change his mind, and moves such as this and bringing in a top player or two would hopefully have that spin off and benefit among others.

 

Anybody who knows football, knows such actions as this are important, and only a complete utter imbecile and clueless idiot would sit on their laurels and allow these players to slip away.

 

 

[Baggio]

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[Guest alex]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

I don't know? Some have, aye. It's hardly either the root or the main reason for any criticism that's been levelled at him though. That's been down to performances on the pitch. If he'd been outstanding, or even half-decent earlier in the season (when he was making contract noises - publicly I might add) then people would probably have thought he was worth a new, improved contract (which he has been offered anyway iirc).

 

simple fact is Alex, some people judge personalities instead of performance. Its obvious in this thread and among the Taylor bashers, a lot of the criticism is because people DO say "not worth 52k a week, get rid of the shitebag" ... [words to that effect] .... without attempting to move the thread but to cement my comment, how many people were glad to see the back of Bellamy because he was a **** and a liar [see current thread ] and also people slate the old board for personalities too rather than running a club that attempted to punch its weight, showed ambition and did really well all round although obviously not as well as we all hoped they would but better than most.

 

The club should give Taylor that contract. They should also move quickly to sign Owen up again. They should try to persuade zoggy to change his mind, and moves such as this and bringing in a top player or two would hopefully have that spin of benefit among others.

 

Anybody who knows football, knows such actions as this are important, and only a complete utter imbecile and clueless idiot would sit on their laurels and allow these players to slip away.

 

 

That's a full house if I mention Souness

I've only ever judge him on what I've seen on the pitch. Here's a tip though. When someone mentions something about the above irrelevent bits, why not quote them and make the point at the time? That way you won't have people thinking you just drag them up anytime you just want a chomp.

[Dokko]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

 

A lot of people have a problem with him being the local 100%er, no doubt about it. They think because he is that people rate him higher than he is so they have to take strips off him to compensate. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, the lad doesn't stand a chance with fans like ours.

 

 

Give over man. The fans were singing his name at the match. The only stick he gets is in places like this.

 

It's true this place contains loads of cockends.

You're unbelievably touchy about the lad   Having a pop for the way he went public was fair enough imo. Credit where credit's due though, he's done well lately. But how was going to the press, particularly when the club was in the shit, about his contract not going to get criticism? Especially when he was struggling as much as anyone on the pitch?

 

I say it how it is. His father was wrong to make his mouth go to AO, it happened out of frustration, the lad just wants to sign up for life, like any supporter would. He (Taylor) has gone as far as getting rid of his dad and to get an agency involved, which is the correct thing for him, but its now going to cost NUFC more in the long run, they are now dealing with a professional outfit and with him in his last year now, over a barrel springs to mind.

[Guest alex]

Fwiw I'd like to see him stay here after recent performances. I'm not too arsed if he goes though in all honesty.

[Dave]

I'd replace him with Dunne for a good price.

 

Wouldn't be so bothered if KK thinks he can keep up his end of season form though, because that's been pretty solid.

[NE5]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

I don't know? Some have, aye. It's hardly either the root or the main reason for any criticism that's been levelled at him though. That's been down to performances on the pitch. If he'd been outstanding, or even half-decent earlier in the season (when he was making contract noises - publicly I might add) then people would probably have thought he was worth a new, improved contract (which he has been offered anyway iirc).

 

simple fact is Alex, some people judge personalities instead of performance. Its obvious in this thread and among the Taylor bashers, a lot of the criticism is because people DO say "not worth 52k a week, get rid of the shitebag" ... [words to that effect] .... without attempting to move the thread but to cement my comment, how many people were glad to see the back of Bellamy because he was a **** and a liar [see current thread ] and also people slate the old board for personalities too rather than running a club that attempted to punch its weight, showed ambition and did really well all round although obviously not as well as we all hoped they would but better than most.

 

The club should give Taylor that contract. They should also move quickly to sign Owen up again. They should try to persuade zoggy to change his mind, and moves such as this and bringing in a top player or two would hopefully have that spin of benefit among others.

 

Anybody who knows football, knows such actions as this are important, and only a complete utter imbecile and clueless idiot would sit on their laurels and allow these players to slip away.

 

 

That's a full house if I mention Souness

I've only ever judge him on what I've seen on the pitch. Here's a tip though. When someone mentions something about the above irrelevent bits, why not quote them and make the point at the time? That way you won't have people thinking you just drag them up anytime you just want a chomp.

 

its to show the consistency of people's thought processes

 

ie a pattern.

 

So its right.

 

Most people thought Souness was a "good bloke" though  [ie for putting that upstart bellamy in his place etc etc .........]

 

 

[Tooj]

I wouldn't exactly say he has us over a barrel. Especially with KK being concerned.

[Dokko]

Fwiw I'd like to see him stay here after recent performances. I'm not too arsed if he goes though in all honesty.

 

I think it would be a travesty.

 

The best youth player to come through in how long? I can't remember the last player who is as competent at this age as he is. We need to stick with him, its cost us nothing and he clearly has something and will only get better in a settled team. I don't want to go through this again but in terms of his education he's been screwed over by this club from day dot, anyone can surly see that and the problems it brings with him. He's only one man, he cannot change a match by himself even though he wants too, he needs the senior players to take responsibility and help him through the early years, shame he's never had that or we'd be seeing a more complete player than what we've got.

[NE5]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

 

A lot of people have a problem with him being the local 100%er, no doubt about it. They think because he is that people rate him higher than he is so they have to take strips off him to compensate. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, the lad doesn't stand a chance with fans like ours.

 

 

Give over man. The fans were singing his name at the match. The only stick he gets is in places like this.

 

It's true this place contains loads of cockends.

You're unbelievably touchy about the lad   Having a pop for the way he went public was fair enough imo. Credit where credit's due though, he's done well lately. But how was going to the press, particularly when the club was in the shit, about his contract not going to get criticism? Especially when he was struggling as much as anyone on the pitch?

 

I say it how it is. His father was wrong to make his mouth go to AO, it happened out of frustration, the lad just wants to sign up for life, like any supporter would. He (Taylor) has gone as far as getting rid of his dad and to get an agency involved, which is the correct thing for him, but its now going to cost NUFC more in the long run, they are now dealing with a professional outfit and with him in his last year now, over a barrel springs to mind.

 

correct.

 

 

[NE5]

I'd replace him with Dunne for a good price.

 

Wouldn't be so bothered if KK thinks he can keep up his end of season form though, because that's been pretty solid.

 

I'd rather have Dunne, Taylor and Faye as our 3 main centre backs fighting for places

 

 

[buzza]

Over a barrel no, not if you compare it to what a similar player would cost you in fees.

Bad management is what it is, Fat Fred should have put an extension in their before he left, not a great wage increase but a morsel to let him know to keep going.

[Dokko]

I'd replace him with Dunne for a good price.

 

Wouldn't be so bothered if KK thinks he can keep up his end of season form though, because that's been pretty solid.

 

I'd rather have Dunne, Taylor and Faye as our 3 main centre backs fighting for places

 

 

 

That's it like. I've got no problem with competition, and i think Taylor needs a season at least as a young squad player, to take it all in and learn from someone, Dunne would be the one for me, and if Taylor can force one of them out, fuking excellent on him. He's never had that and it shows in his game, we've relied on him far too much.

[Guest alex]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

I don't know? Some have, aye. It's hardly either the root or the main reason for any criticism that's been levelled at him though. That's been down to performances on the pitch. If he'd been outstanding, or even half-decent earlier in the season (when he was making contract noises - publicly I might add) then people would probably have thought he was worth a new, improved contract (which he has been offered anyway iirc).

 

simple fact is Alex, some people judge personalities instead of performance. Its obvious in this thread and among the Taylor bashers, a lot of the criticism is because people DO say "not worth 52k a week, get rid of the shitebag" ... [words to that effect] .... without attempting to move the thread but to cement my comment, how many people were glad to see the back of Bellamy because he was a **** and a liar [see current thread ] and also people slate the old board for personalities too rather than running a club that attempted to punch its weight, showed ambition and did really well all round although obviously not as well as we all hoped they would but better than most.

 

The club should give Taylor that contract. They should also move quickly to sign Owen up again. They should try to persuade zoggy to change his mind, and moves such as this and bringing in a top player or two would hopefully have that spin of benefit among others.

 

Anybody who knows football, knows such actions as this are important, and only a complete utter imbecile and clueless idiot would sit on their laurels and allow these players to slip away.

 

 

That's a full house if I mention Souness

I've only ever judge him on what I've seen on the pitch. Here's a tip though. When someone mentions something about the above irrelevent bits, why not quote them and make the point at the time? That way you won't have people thinking you just drag them up anytime you just want a chomp.

 

its to show the consistency of people's thought processes

 

ie a pattern.

 

So its right.

 

Most people thought Souness was a "good bloke" though  [ie for putting that upstart bellamy in his place etc etc .........]

 

 

The consistency of whose thoughts? I'm debating with you about Taylor, aye? Since you quoted me. So what's someone else's views on Bellamy got to with it? Even if they were my views at the time (which they weren't) I fail to see the relevance. So, unless you're just after a chomp, I don't get it.

[Dave]

I'd replace him with Dunne for a good price.

 

Wouldn't be so bothered if KK thinks he can keep up his end of season form though, because that's been pretty solid.

 

I'd rather have Dunne, Taylor and Faye as our 3 main centre backs fighting for places

 

 

 

That would do me nicely.

[NE5]

Fwiw I'd like to see him stay here after recent performances. I'm not too arsed if he goes though in all honesty.

 

I think it would be a travesty.

 

The best youth player to come through in how long? I can't remember the last player who is as competent at this age as he is. We need to stick with him, its cost us nothing and he clearly has something and will only get better in a settled team. I don't want to go through this again but in terms of his education he's been screwed over by this club from day dot, anyone can surly see that and the problems it brings with him. He's only one man, he cannot change a match by himself even though he wants too, he needs the senior players to take responsibility and help him through the early years, shame he's never had that or we'd be seeing a more complete player than what we've got.

 

so obvious its unreal

 

 

[NE5]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

I don't know? Some have, aye. It's hardly either the root or the main reason for any criticism that's been levelled at him though. That's been down to performances on the pitch. If he'd been outstanding, or even half-decent earlier in the season (when he was making contract noises - publicly I might add) then people would probably have thought he was worth a new, improved contract (which he has been offered anyway iirc).

 

simple fact is Alex, some people judge personalities instead of performance. Its obvious in this thread and among the Taylor bashers, a lot of the criticism is because people DO say "not worth 52k a week, get rid of the shitebag" ... [words to that effect] .... without attempting to move the thread but to cement my comment, how many people were glad to see the back of Bellamy because he was a **** and a liar [see current thread ] and also people slate the old board for personalities too rather than running a club that attempted to punch its weight, showed ambition and did really well all round although obviously not as well as we all hoped they would but better than most.

 

The club should give Taylor that contract. They should also move quickly to sign Owen up again. They should try to persuade zoggy to change his mind, and moves such as this and bringing in a top player or two would hopefully have that spin of benefit among others.

 

Anybody who knows football, knows such actions as this are important, and only a complete utter imbecile and clueless idiot would sit on their laurels and allow these players to slip away.

 

 

That's a full house if I mention Souness

I've only ever judge him on what I've seen on the pitch. Here's a tip though. When someone mentions something about the above irrelevent bits, why not quote them and make the point at the time? That way you won't have people thinking you just drag them up anytime you just want a chomp.

 

its to show the consistency of people's thought processes

 

ie a pattern.

 

So its right.

 

Most people thought Souness was a "good bloke" though  [ie for putting that upstart bellamy in his place etc etc .........]

 

 

The consistency of whose thoughts? I'm debating with you about Taylor, aye? Since you quoted me. So what's someone else's views on Bellamy got to with it? Even if they were my views at the time (which they weren't) I fail to see the relevance. So, unless you're just after a chomp, I don't get it.

 

putting personalities and off the field incidences first, it happens all the time

 

 

[Guest alex]

I'd replace him with Dunne for a good price.

 

Wouldn't be so bothered if KK thinks he can keep up his end of season form though, because that's been pretty solid.

 

I'd rather have Dunne, Taylor and Faye as our 3 main centre backs fighting for places

 

 

We're very short of cover anyway. Cacapa - not suited to the physical side of the league; Rozenhal - ditto if/when he returns and Edgar who is unproven.

[buzza]

If we get rid of ramage we now need two new centre backs,, one for each position. I would like dunne aswell, but also another pacier centre back would be nice. I have seen we were linked to the Porto centre back somewhere today (teamtalk...I know!)...

[Mowen]

I'd replace him with Dunne for a good price.

 

Wouldn't be so bothered if KK thinks he can keep up his end of season form though, because that's been pretty solid.

 

I'd rather have Dunne, Taylor and Faye as our 3 main centre backs fighting for places

 

 

 

I'd be more than happy with that. Would be the first time we've had three centre backs from competant to good fighting for the positions for some time.

[Guest alex]

I thought he did well today but still has to bridge the gap between promising youngster and established senior. I still think he gets a hell of a lot of slack cos he's the honest geordie 100%er.

 

amazing comment, considering the amount of foreign tosspots we've had that don't give a monkeys for the club.

 

I think that he's getting the stick because he's a Geordie giving 100% and so fans think he should be signing a new contract for nothing.

 

No one thinks that. You're just being daft now.

 

Well, I think its true.

 

I can also assure you that in my case anyway, I'm not bigging him up because he's an honest geordie giving 100%, although such a quality isn't to be sniffed at.

 

 

You think Geordies and Newcastle fans in general think Taylor should accept a low wage because he's a Geordie 100%-er? Sorry, I don't follow your logic one bit.

 

how many people have slated him for his contract demands

 

 

I don't know? Some have, aye. It's hardly either the root or the main reason for any criticism that's been levelled at him though. That's been down to performances on the pitch. If he'd been outstanding, or even half-decent earlier in the season (when he was making contract noises - publicly I might add) then people would probably have thought he was worth a new, improved contract (which he has been offered anyway iirc).

 

simple fact is Alex, some people judge personalities instead of performance. Its obvious in this thread and among the Taylor bashers, a lot of the criticism is because people DO say "not worth 52k a week, get rid of the shitebag" ... [words to that effect] .... without attempting to move the thread but to cement my comment, how many people were glad to see the back of Bellamy because he was a **** and a liar [see current thread ] and also people slate the old board for personalities too rather than running a club that attempted to punch its weight, showed ambition and did really well all round although obviously not as well as we all hoped they would but better than most.

 

The club should give Taylor that contract. They should also move quickly to sign Owen up again. They should try to persuade zoggy to change his mind, and moves such as this and bringing in a top player or two would hopefully have that spin of benefit among others.

 

Anybody who knows football, knows such actions as this are important, and only a complete utter imbecile and clueless idiot would sit on their laurels and allow these players to slip away.

 

 

That's a full house if I mention Souness

I've only ever judge him on what I've seen on the pitch. Here's a tip though. When someone mentions something about the above irrelevent bits, why not quote them and make the point at the time? That way you won't have people thinking you just drag them up anytime you just want a chomp.

 

its to show the consistency of people's thought processes

 

ie a pattern.

 

So its right.

 

Most people thought Souness was a "good bloke" though  [ie for putting that upstart bellamy in his place etc etc .........]

 

 

The consistency of whose thoughts? I'm debating with you about Taylor, aye? Since you quoted me. So what's someone else's views on Bellamy got to with it? Even if they were my views at the time (which they weren't) I fail to see the relevance. So, unless you're just after a chomp, I don't get it.

 

putting personalities and off the field incidences first, it happens all the time

 

 

Like I said, take it up with whoever you're on about then. Preferably at the time iyam.

[Guest alex]

If we get rid of ramage we now need two new centre backs,, one for each position. I would like dunne aswell, but also another pacier centre back would be nice. I have seen we were linked to the Porto centre back somewhere today (teamtalk...I know!)...

Ramage has gone btw.

[Dave]

putting personalities and off the field incidences first, it happens all the time

 

Barring the ill-advised contract issues in the media, I can't see how that applies to Taylor.

 

Most people haven't been impressed with what they've seen from him on the pitch, and it's as simple as that.