ujpest doza Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I'm not a fan of Ranger but in this instance i think he's been very harshly treated for a bit of banter with his mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Craig-NUFC Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Finding it difficult to wrap my head around how homophobia is 'banter' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Finding it difficult to wrap my head around how homophobia is 'banter' Never used 'gay' or 'fag' as an insult to a mate then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It is homophobia only in the sense that the ways in which the vast majority of young men interact around the world is homophobia. Most of us have probably challenged someone's manhood (jokingly or aggressively) using terms for homosexuals or women. He is a fool for using any offensive term in public given how sensitive everyone has become about generally anything. It is not surprising that the players fined for this are younger, and generally more immature, it is stupidity more than any genuine hate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Finding it difficult to wrap my head around how homophobia is 'banter' So you never called someone a puff when they've done something soft or can't hold their drink for example? Give over man, it's an absolute nonsense that he's been fined £6K for this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Finding it difficult to wrap my head around how homophobia is 'banter' Never used 'gay' or 'fag' as an insult to a mate then? It's used all the time like tbf. It's gay as f*** that it is, but that's the way the football world is. On the other hand, the puffs have every right to complain, if they don't it wont ever get kicked out of society/football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is calling someone a fag really banter? I would never call one of my friends a faggot for so many reasons. Nile is a professional football player, there's every right for him to be punished for using a slur on a public medium. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is calling someone a fag really banter? I would never call one of my friends a faggot for so many reasons. Nile is a professional football player, there's every right for him to be punished for using a slur on a public medium. I call one of my best mates (who is gay) a faggot and back door burglar all the time. Just like he teabags my pint when I'm at the toilet. It's banter, to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is calling someone a fag really banter? I would never call one of my friends a faggot for so many reasons. Nile is a professional football player, there's every right for him to be punished for using a slur on a public medium. He's a complete fucking moron for saying it in a public forum, and the banter is far from world class, but it's not even close to being worth a fine. He's just being made an example of, in an attempt to dissuade the more public football twitterers, one assumes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 It's pointless making an example of Nile Ranger too. Everyone knows he is a t***, and he isn't the best of footballers. They just feel like publically making him look the t*** he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 "Phahahaha I've heard it all now #hi5totheHaters" Why is he still on Twitter? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is calling someone a fag really banter? I would never call one of my friends a faggot for so many reasons. Nile is a professional football player, there's every right for him to be punished for using a slur on a public medium. He's a complete fucking moron for saying it in a public forum, and the banter is far from world class, but it's not even close to being worth a fine. He's just being made an example of, in an attempt to dissuade the more public football twitterers, one assumes. If he's being made an example of it's because he used a homophobic slur, not because he's on twitter. That word has no place in society. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Is calling someone a fag really banter? I would never call one of my friends a faggot for so many reasons. Nile is a professional football player, there's every right for him to be punished for using a slur on a public medium. He's a complete fucking moron for saying it in a public forum, and the banter is far from world class, but it's not even close to being worth a fine. He's just being made an example of, in an attempt to dissuade the more public football twitterers, one assumes. If he's being made an example of it's because he used a homophobic slur, not because he's on twitter. That word has no place in society. Never used it either then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Obviously I have, when I was an immature homophobic 15-year old kid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Obviously I have, when I was an immature homophobic 15-year old kid. Did you actually hate gays when you were 15? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I wouldn't say I hated them, no. But I wasn't exactly open to it. That's irrelevant anyway, whether someone hates gays or not, there's no place for something that offensive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 I must admit I think it's all a bit stupid the way people go on nowadays. At 16 one of my best mates who was 20 told me he was gay. He told me first because he thought I wouldn't understand. He's still one of my best mates to this day. Ever since that moment, we have called him everything under the sun to make fun of it, as we would about any of our group of mates, and I have partially deaf mates as well as fat mates, tall mates, small mates, you name it. Everyone takes the p*ss out of everyone in a group of lads. The whole puff and black thing, etc obviously has a horrible history to it, but I very much doubt that the majority people who make these comments actually hate people of these variations. Might as well be f***ing sheep and surround ourselves with wool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Fair enough. If people want to say it, I'm not going to confront them or call them out, but it's ridiculous that people think it's okay for someone in the public eye to use it. Just as bad as any other slur. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 You're right like to a degree. If you're in the public eye and seen to be a potential role model then you have a responsibility to act in a sensible, non-offesive way, especially on those wages. On the other hand, he's just being a young lad, doing what young lads do, and say. Especially those of the dickhead variety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 If he posted a link to this: Senor Chang - Gay to Andy Mogwo , would it be homophobic? It's exactly the same. As Nile said, it's a joke by the FA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Maybe it was stupid to write it on twitter. But i just don`t like the idea that you can get fined for calling your mate a fag, that`s all. You're not in the public eye or in a position of responsibility, so you won't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Finding it difficult to wrap my head around how homophobia is 'banter' So you never called someone a puff when they've done something soft or can't hold their drink for example? Give over man, it's an absolute nonsense that he's been fined £6K for this. He broadcasted it to 32,000 people. I can't say any of us have done that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Finding it difficult to wrap my head around how homophobia is 'banter' So you never called someone a puff when they've done something soft or can't hold their drink for example? Give over man, it's an absolute nonsense that he's been fined £6K for this. He broadcasted it to 32,000 people. I can't say any of us have done that. I don't think anyone is defending how moronic he is for putting it on twitter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Five o Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 Maybe it was stupid to write it on twitter. But i just don`t like the idea that you can get fined for calling your mate a fag, that`s all. You're not in the public eye or in a position of responsibility, so you won't. I know, if i had i would be broke and in jail probably. My comment was directed at bluestar who mention that you would get fined if you used it in public, where the cops could here it. Bigg market in his example. FFS its banter between mates. What the fuck have the world become if we can not say what we want to each other. Do you seriously get fined for that in the UK? Its a completely other thing if i go and tell a stranger he is a faggot or a asshammer imo, because some take offence of it. And as i mentioned, stupid of him to write it on twitter, but give the lad a break Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted March 2, 2012 Share Posted March 2, 2012 There are things you can say to your mates that you wouldn't say to strangers, colleagues, your wife's parents, your boss... It may well be that you can make a joke about the holocaust or call your Asian mate a paki and because the people present know you, they realise you're being deliberately inappropriate, that you're taking the piss out of people who really hold those views or whatever and it doesn't mean you're a racist, a homophobe or whatever. And I'd have a lot of sympathy for someone who was caught on a candid phone video and crucified for that. But come on man it's fucking basic, you don't come out with that kind of stuff in public in front of people who don't know you or barely know you or you're going to have some consequences from employers or acquaintances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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