Dave Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Not as good as Kluivert, dear me, he is a kid, he is only 21, is that what we have come too. Not quite right... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morpeth mag Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Hope it means we're getting Inusa from Liverpool as part-ex as well as a new RW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 The PFA can f*ck off as well whinging at us for making this public. The club has every right to tell its fans if one of its players wants to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Milner also had to wait 12 months for the club to stop dithering over the improved contract offer (matching of Villa's terms) and was still earning less for that period. Why sign it then? So then what happens? He continues to earn less money while the club continue negotiating? Perhaps at the time he didn't think he'd be involved as much with the new high-earners (Smith, Geremi, Barton, etc) joining the club, as it turns out... As for the moronic comments about "he's only just signed a new contract" - does that stop you asking for a payrise in your annual appraisal, especially if you've been working your bollocks off to do a decent job while some of your higher paid colleagues contribute very little? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 The PFA can f*ck off as well whinging at us for making this public. The club has every right to tell its fans if one of its players wants to leave. That baffles me too. How are other clubs meant to know he's handed in a transfer request without mentioning it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 A people wonder why players have agents with the PFA giving out advice like this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Not quite right...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Milner also had to wait 12 months for the club to stop dithering over the improved contract offer (matching of Villa's terms) and was still earning less for that period. Why sign it then? So then what happens? He continues to earn less money while the club continue negotiating? Perhaps at the time he didn't think he'd be involved as much with the new high-earners (Smith, Geremi, Barton, etc) joining the club, as it turns out... As for the moronic comments about "he's only just signed a new contract" - does that stop you asking for a payrise in your annual appraisal, especially if you've been working your bollocks off to do a decent job while some of your higher paid colleagues contribute very little? Footballers have annual appraisals? Unless you're comparing his situation with the normal supporter, in which case thats more "moronic" than anything I've read on here tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Not as good as Kluivert, dear me, he is a kid, he is only 21, is that what we have come too. And his wages reflect his age. He's 23 in a few months btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 A people wonder why players have agents with the PFA giving out advice like this. Steven Taylor's dad is a better agent than the PFA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4622041.ece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Milner also had to wait 12 months for the club to stop dithering over the improved contract offer (matching of Villa's terms) and was still earning less for that period. Why sign it then? So then what happens? He continues to earn less money while the club continue negotiating? Perhaps at the time he didn't think he'd be involved as much with the new high-earners (Smith, Geremi, Barton, etc) joining the club, as it turns out... As for the moronic comments about "he's only just signed a new contract" - does that stop you asking for a payrise in your annual appraisal, especially if you've been working your bollocks off to do a decent job while some of your higher paid colleagues contribute very little? Footballers have annual appraisals? Unless you're comparing his situation with the normal supporter, in which case thats more "moronic" than anything I've read on here tonight. I'm pretty sure that at the start of each season, the majority of managers will sit down with each player individually and outline what he expects from him in the coming season, at which point general incentives, etc may be raised. For example, at the start of 06/07, Ronaldo's appraisal involved Ferguson setting him a target of 15 goals, which he then beat. At the start ot 07/08 Ferguson set him the target of 25 goals, which he subsequently went onto beat. Sorry, is this not a function on FM yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Liam Liam Liam, If Keegan rates him so highly and O'neil is prepared to pay up to £10m fro him, he should direct any anger you may have at the idiots running the club prerpared to sell someone who will be in the Engalnd squad this season, and not at him, you just sound, and make is all sound like idiots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article4622041.ece hmm, my money would be on him staying for the time being - unless we are actually signing an excellent right winger as an immediate replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filflop1 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 ANy player no matter who he is, if they dont want to be here let them go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k2 Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 For gods sake, enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Here's an idea. How about if Villa want him and value him at £9m or whatever, we call O'Neill's bluff and offer £8m plus Milner for Barry...which would meet their valuation. Would make things a bit interesting methinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Doubt Barry would come here though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 ANy player no matter who he is, if they dont want to be here let them go Don't be silly, it's all the club's fault. As usual. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Liam Liam Liam, If Keegan rates him so highly and O'neil is prepared to pay up to £10m fro him, he should direct any anger you may have at the idiots running the club prerpared to sell someone who will be in the Engalnd squad this season, and not at him, you just sound, and make is all sound like idiots. England squad? Based on what? Milner has done absolutely nothing over the last 12 months to warrant a pay rise. Fact is, our form improved when he was out of the team towards the end of last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Doubt Barry would come here though. Probably not, but if Liverpool or Arsenal don't match the fee, you just never know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Milner also had to wait 12 months for the club to stop dithering over the improved contract offer (matching of Villa's terms) and was still earning less for that period. Why sign it then? So then what happens? He continues to earn less money while the club continue negotiating? Perhaps at the time he didn't think he'd be involved as much with the new high-earners (Smith, Geremi, Barton, etc) joining the club, as it turns out... As for the moronic comments about "he's only just signed a new contract" - does that stop you asking for a payrise in your annual appraisal, especially if you've been working your bollocks off to do a decent job while some of your higher paid colleagues contribute very little? Footballers have annual appraisals? Unless you're comparing his situation with the normal supporter, in which case thats more "moronic" than anything I've read on here tonight. I'm pretty sure that at the start of each season, the majority of managers will sit down with each player individually and outline what he expects from him in the coming season, at which point general incentives, etc may be raised. For example, at the start of 06/07, Ronaldo's appraisal involved Ferguson setting him a target of 15 goals, which he then beat. At the start ot 07/08 Ferguson set him the target of 25 goals, which he subsequently went onto beat. Sorry, is this not a function on FM yet? Is that the function where you can pay shit players stupid money just to make them sign, despite them not improving since their last contract? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Would settle with Young and Agbonlahor me think :colo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Doubt Barry would come here though. Probably not, but if Liverpool or Arsenal don't match the fee, you just never know. I think he wants to go to a club like that because he wants to step up and get a crack at Europe. I am certainly not a doom merchant but we are on level with Villa at the moment and thats me being kind to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Milner's Annual Appraisal KK: So where do you see yourself in 12 months time JM: Villa (reserves) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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