Optimistic Nut Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Shearer was apparently covering the match on Radio Five Live on Monday night, so you'd think it was unlucky he'd been over in Dubai negotiating anything the last few days as was said yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 That doesn't make a great deal of sense. But I think I know what you mean. Shrearer was definitely at SJP on monday. Was it not last week he was alleged to be in Dubai though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 So where's this official announcement then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Let's just not judge the manager/owners on the Jan transfer window, given how it is difficult to persuade players to move at that time of year. Glad to see you've learnt the sum total of f*** all from the experience of the past 18 months. Well done. So to clarify, just for my benefit - we should be overpaying if thats whats required? Is that in reference to our current plight (low on numbers) or generally? That wasn't the point. To answer the question with another question; ever bought a coffee at an airport for £5? Sometimes circumstances dictate that you pay more than the 'market rate'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 So where's this official announcement then ? NUFCblog are doing a press release soon according to Skunkers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Let's just not judge the manager/owners on the Jan transfer window, given how it is difficult to persuade players to move at that time of year. Glad to see you've learnt the sum total of f*** all from the experience of the past 18 months. Well done. So to clarify, just for my benefit - we should be overpaying if thats whats required? Is that in reference to our current plight (low on numbers) or generally? That wasn't the point. To answer the question with another question; ever bought a coffee at an airport for £5? Sometimes circumstances dictate that you pay more than the 'market rate'. Ah ok, thats fair enough. I just think pricing in January a little too subjective, especially with the quality of player that is available around those times. Its no coincidence that alot of the big clubs dont shop in these periods becasue of this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE5 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Let's just not judge the manager/owners on the Jan transfer window, given how it is difficult to persuade players to move at that time of year. Glad to see you've learnt the sum total of f*** all from the experience of the past 18 months. Well done. So to clarify, just for my benefit - we should be overpaying if thats whats required? Is that in reference to our current plight (low on numbers) or generally? That wasn't the point. To answer the question with another question; ever bought a coffee at an airport for £5? Sometimes circumstances dictate that you pay more than the 'market rate'. Ah ok, thats fair enough. I just think pricing in January a little too subjective, especially with the quality of player that is available around those times. Its no coincidence that alot of the big clubs dont shop in these periods becasue of this. we had this with you last year at this time. You didn't want the club to spend money in January. Do you think we will be so lucky this time ? Whats your ambition for this club ? Are you happy just staying in the premiership or do you want to be a top club and do you understand how you get to be a top club ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Let's just not judge the manager/owners on the Jan transfer window, given how it is difficult to persuade players to move at that time of year. Glad to see you've learnt the sum total of f*** all from the experience of the past 18 months. Well done. So to clarify, just for my benefit - we should be overpaying if thats whats required? Is that in reference to our current plight (low on numbers) or generally? That wasn't the point. To answer the question with another question; ever bought a coffee at an airport for £5? Sometimes circumstances dictate that you pay more than the 'market rate'. Ah ok, thats fair enough. I just think pricing in January a little too subjective, especially with the quality of player that is available around those times. Its no coincidence that alot of the big clubs dont shop in these periods becasue of this. we had this with you last year at this time. You didn't want the club to spend money in January. Do you think we will be so lucky this time ? Whats your ambition for this club ? Are you happy just staying in the premiership or do you want to be a top club and do you understand how you get to be a top club ? Look mate - id be happy to oblige you with an answer but i feel that it'd only get twisted and controted out of reasonable proportion. I have a pretty steady view on the way id like to do our business some will agree others not. I have a feeling you'd be in the latter group. My views comes from the beleif that id like to see a level playing field again but cant see it whatseover in the future. I think all this is a moot point now - implmenting a sustainalbe business plan which starts with the appointment of the right man isnt so important nowadys becasue the dollar is so powerful in football nowadays. Success is no longer built its bought and thats what i think will happen to us with our next buyer. Id love nothing more than to see the club build the club off the back of its success like Man U but all i see nowadays is fans and owners aspriing to buy success which in my opinion is a sad state of affairs - the game's losing its soul, it no longer belongs to the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id love nothing more than to see the club build the club off the back of its success like Man U Is this a different Man U to the club that has bought success since time immemorial? One good batch of youngsters does not change history - going back to Liverpool in the 80s and the rest, success in the English game has always been a function of wealth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatTheFunk Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id love nothing more than to see the club build the club off the back of its success like Man U Is this a different Man U to the club that has bought success since time immemorial? One good batch of youngsters does not change history - going back to Liverpool in the 80s and the rest, success in the English game has always been a function of wealth. I give you Arsenal and Leeds (under Wilkinson) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id love nothing more than to see the club build the club off the back of its success like Man U Is this a different Man U to the club that has bought success since time immemorial? One good batch of youngsters does not change history - going back to Liverpool in the 80s and the rest, success in the English game has always been a function of wealth. I give you Arsenal and Leeds (under Wilkinson) Arsenal have always been one of the top 3 or 4 richest clubs before they built the Emirates - "old" money. Leeds were a one-off that didn't last - the Ridsdale madness came later and was unrelated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 success in the English game has always been a function of wealth. Tell that to Brian Clough and Nottingham Forest, or Sir Bobby Robson and Ipswich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I hope some one with a sense will buy us. With good plan for the future. The Kuwat guy is intersting to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id love nothing more than to see the club build the club off the back of its success like Man U Is this a different Man U to the club that has bought success since time immemorial? One good batch of youngsters does not change history - going back to Liverpool in the 80s and the rest, success in the English game has always been a function of wealth. So whats your point - every single successfull club in the world has bought its success? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id also like to point out that the point id like to make is that man u have got themselves into the financial situation they are in now purely by football reasons, albeit with some financial advantages from the start - id also point out that in no way have i advocated that we should try and achieve success for as cheap as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 success in the English game has always been a function of wealth. Tell that to Brian Clough and Nottingham Forest, or Sir Bobby Robson and Ipswich. I'll give you Forest - again more of an exception - Ipswich won a couple of cups which I'd love us to do but not great in the scheme of things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id also like to point out that the point id like to make is that man u have got themselves into the financial situation they are in now purely by football reasons, albeit with some financial advantages from the start - id also point out that in no way have i advocated that we should try and achieve success for as cheap as possible. I see what you mean - I thought you were advocating that becoming a good team "on the cheap" was somehow more noble than doing a Chelsea etc which I think is crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id love nothing more than to see the club build the club off the back of its success like Man U Is this a different Man U to the club that has bought success since time immemorial? One good batch of youngsters does not change history - going back to Liverpool in the 80s and the rest, success in the English game has always been a function of wealth. So whats your point - every single successfull club in the world has bought its success? Mostly - success tends to be a feedback loop and it's hard to break the cycle unless you have an exceptional manager (see Clough) or stupid money (Chelsea). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id also like to point out that the point id like to make is that man u have got themselves into the financial situation they are in now purely by football reasons, albeit with some financial advantages from the start - id also point out that in no way have i advocated that we should try and achieve success for as cheap as possible. I see what you mean - I thought you were advocating that becoming a good team "on the cheap" was somehow more noble than doing a Chelsea etc which I think is crap. No no, i recognise the need to spend money but I do beleive that there should be a sense a regulation to how and when we spend our money, thats all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id also like to point out that the point id like to make is that man u have got themselves into the financial situation they are in now purely by football reasons, albeit with some financial advantages from the start - id also point out that in no way have i advocated that we should try and achieve success for as cheap as possible. A certain plane crash has a certain amount to do with their success tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbob Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id also like to point out that the point id like to make is that man u have got themselves into the financial situation they are in now purely by football reasons, albeit with some financial advantages from the start - id also point out that in no way have i advocated that we should try and achieve success for as cheap as possible. A certain plane crash has a certain amount to do with their success tbh. How so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id also like to point out that the point id like to make is that man u have got themselves into the financial situation they are in now purely by football reasons, albeit with some financial advantages from the start - id also point out that in no way have i advocated that we should try and achieve success for as cheap as possible. A certain plane crash has a certain amount to do with their success tbh. How so? Because they gained a lot of support after Munich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Id also like to point out that the point id like to make is that man u have got themselves into the financial situation they are in now purely by football reasons, albeit with some financial advantages from the start - id also point out that in no way have i advocated that we should try and achieve success for as cheap as possible. A certain plane crash has a certain amount to do with their success tbh. How so? Louis Edwards used the money from donations following the disaster to fund the building of the club. PLUS The Munich air disaster created headlines around the globe and spawned a legend that, ultimately, helped make Manchester United one of the biggest clubs in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Spending in January is pretty much a necessity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Spending in January is pretty much a necessity. Barring a really good run that leaves us safe from any threat of relegation, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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