Guest sicko2ndbest Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 The formula for power is strength plus speed. We do not have one player on the books who can dominate their opposite number in terms of power. We have Martins, Zog and Jonas who have good pace and thats it. Look at Sunderland today, Cisse, Diouf, Richardson, Ferdinand, Jones, Malbranque (over 20 yards), pace in abundance. Even when you are playing shit, pace can get you out of trouble. We have a number of one paced players who have to be on top of their game to be considered effective. Who do we have that can physically dominate the opposition. Faye was the only one and we sold him! Look at the top teams they have power in bucketloads, as well as top talent. Even Portsmouth have managed to paper over the cracks with the amount of powerful players they have brought. I really fear for us this year. I think we will struggle against teams like Stoke who will be fighting with us, as they are a powerful unit that can mask their football ability, or lack of, by being a powerful unit. January needs to address this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Our starting midfield today sums up your point exactly. Its just slow and 'workmanlike', aka shit. I was Dyer's biggest critic but at least he was mobile from midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Our starting midfield today sums up your point exactly. Its just slow and 'workmanlike', aka s***. I was Dyer's biggest critic but at least he was mobile from midfield. Dyer gave us the element of unpredictability, which we lack now. Martins is the closest we have but he is hit and miss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crumpy Gunt Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Our starting midfield today sums up your point exactly. Its just slow and 'workmanlike', aka s***. I was Dyer's biggest critic but at least he was mobile from midfield. Dyer gave us the element of unpredictability, which we lack now. Martins is the closest we have but he is hit and miss Martins was fucking shit today. In fact he's fucking shite most days. Without a doubt the most over rated player in our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Said this for a few years now. Like Ally said too, at least with Dyer he was mobile. Inler would have been a brilliant signing in the summer I feel, such a shame we didn't bring him in. No matter how shit our defence has been over the years, I still think this is definitely our major downfall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eires No. 1 Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Our starting midfield today sums up your point exactly. Its just slow and 'workmanlike', aka s***. I was Dyer's biggest critic but at least he was mobile from midfield. Dyer gave us the element of unpredictability, which we lack now. Martins is the closest we have but he is hit and miss Martins was fucking shit today. In fact he's fucking shite most days. Without a doubt the most over rated player in our squad. Agreed with all of the above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Our starting midfield today sums up your point exactly. Its just slow and 'workmanlike', aka s***. I was Dyer's biggest critic but at least he was mobile from midfield. Dyer gave us the element of unpredictability, which we lack now. Martins is the closest we have but he is hit and miss Martins was fucking shit today. In fact he's fucking shite most days. Without a doubt the most over rated player in our squad. Undoubtable CG. Oba simply cant get away with a good finish every couple of months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Bassong and Beye are powerful but neither are very good going forward, the former particularly, so they dont really help out that much. how lethargic and weak are we in the midfield tho? diouf looked like yaya toure, michael essien and vinnie jones mixed into one against our midfield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest geordienorway Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 We should have bought Fellaini or Engelaar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Our starting midfield today sums up your point exactly. Its just slow and 'workmanlike', aka s***. I was Dyer's biggest critic but at least he was mobile from midfield. Dyer gave us the element of unpredictability, which we lack now. Martins is the closest we have but he is hit and miss Agree with this by the way. For all his faults, the way he'd run with the ball 40-50 yards was invaluable. We don't have anyone in the squad capable of doing that now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 Our starting midfield today sums up your point exactly. Its just slow and 'workmanlike', aka s***. I was Dyer's biggest critic but at least he was mobile from midfield. Dyer gave us the element of unpredictability, which we lack now. Martins is the closest we have but he is hit and miss Martins was fucking shit today. In fact he's fucking shite most days. Without a doubt the most over rated player in our squad. Agreed with all of the above Me too. Cisse's performance is what I hoped to have from Oba when he signed. He hasn't come close so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 I got laughed out of town on here when I suggested selling Martins to Arsenal in the summer and named Cisse as a possible replacement. Think the man is quality. Different class to Martins, and that's not kneejerk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted October 25, 2008 Share Posted October 25, 2008 If we had deficiencies surely Wise would have seen these over the summer and put it right. SBR had pace throughout the team, Souness took that away and no-one has re-introduced it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Pretty much fickleness defined in this thread. Martins was the shit when we played Man U and the months before that, he was the saviour to season when we had that run of games with KK. Cause he's been injured and played played twice since, he's now shit and over-rated, wish people on here would stick to their guns instead of making the most extremist remarks about a player who has undoubted quality and without him we never win any games. If anyone is the most over-rated in our squad it has to be Zoggy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Dunno about lack of power, lack of directness maybe, a Dyer type player who will run witht he ball every chance they get and take the game to the oposition, Jonas does it but its needed more central than out wide. Barton will do it and once these two get back to fitness they will be the difference to our team. Some long range efforts to would be nice to, we know Barton can strike a ball from distance. Jonas--Guth--Barton--Zoggy thats a midfield four with pace,power and directness I for one cannot wait to see it in action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Antec Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I got laughed out of town on here when I suggested selling Martins to Arsenal in the summer and named Cisse as a possible replacement. Think the man is quality. Different class to Martins, and that's not kneejerk. He is virtually identical to Martins, headless chicken with poor touch, control and little awareness of what's going on around him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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