Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Post-2004 would be more correct. He scored 28 goals in that 03/04 season. But i'm being pedantic. how many league away goals did Shearer score in 2004? answer: 0 How many goals did he score in 2004? how many goals would you score if you took penalties? a few i'd suspect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JamesyJazz Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Duff to Kinnear is what Shearer was to Souness. Sickening tbh. N'zogbia is blatantly very eager for a chance. Lol, yet another jibe at Shearer. Will it ever end? how was that f*** was that a jibe at Shearer? by the end of 2005, just about everyone was questioning Shearer's constant place in the starting 11 tbh Really,ok that's your own view,mine?A proven goal scoring machine that he was.I never questioned his inclusion,if he was on the pitch you knew for sure he would give his all for the shirt. not getting drawn into this argument again but post 2003 (exception of penalties) he was no goal threat whatsoever and the stats prove it Lol, I think you will find that no one bar you was questioning his inclusion in the team at that time. I think you will also find that saying he was no goal threat whatsoever post 2003 is also extrememly harsh. While there is no denying he was much less of a player than he was before, he still scored some fine open play goals. You must be the only supposed Newcastle fan on the face of the planet who can say that they have ever been dissapointed to see Shearer's name on the teamsheet. Hilarious. That's bollocks tbf. There was loads of people on here, including myself, who wanted to see Kluivert and Bellamy up front at a time when Shearer was little threat other than from the spot. Amen to that. Bellamy and Kluivert looked to be a much better partnership than Shearer and Bellamy in 2004. I think people are forgetting that in his last years all Shearer really did was back into defenders when the ball was played up to him and then try to win a free kick. Aww c'mon man!Kluivert?Barry Whites fatter brother!Bellamy I can concede was a decent choice but that fat tw*t?Nah!! Still,everyone is entitled to their own opinion,please don't take offence to my reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Post-2004 would be more correct. He scored 28 goals in that 03/04 season. But i'm being pedantic. how many league away goals did Shearer score in 2004? answer: 0 How many goals did he score in 2004? how many goals would you score if you took penalties? a few i'd suspect Probably not over 20 like http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7342/shearerwx0.jpg From .com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Post-2004 would be more correct. He scored 28 goals in that 03/04 season. But i'm being pedantic. how many league away goals did Shearer score in 2004? answer: 0 1. But it was a pen so I'll give you that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Post-2004 would be more correct. He scored 28 goals in that 03/04 season. But i'm being pedantic. how many league away goals did Shearer score in 2004? answer: 0 How many goals did he score in 2004? how many goals would you score if you took penalties? a few i'd suspect Probably not over 20 like http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/7342/shearerwx0.jpg From .com not overly impressive is it all the same. Take away the penalties and you have 8 goals in the league at home in 2004 and 0 away from home. Does 8 league goals from open play represent a good 2004 to anyone else? my original point was that he didn't warrant a constant place in the starting 11 post 2003, nowt you've presented contradicts that tbh. You're just bloody obsessed with arguing with me int ya O'brien? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 You're a joke Ronaldo tbh. Over 20 goals doesn't warrant a place in the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Cacapa > Shearer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 not when 2 thirds are either penalties or goals against Slovakian farmers 8 league goals from open play in an entire year is pathetic and the key word is CONSTANT place in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 no when 2 thirds are either penalties or goals against Slovakian farmers 8 league goals from open play in an entire year is pathetic and the key word is CONSTANT place in the team. How many players have scored 20 goals in a year for us since? (I don't know the answer btw) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 what's that got to do with anything? 8 goals in an entire year is poor and doesn't justify constant selection come rain or shine. Especially when it was the expense of a certain striker who finished our top prem scorer in 04-05 despite being loaned out in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 what's that got to do with anything? 8 goals in an entire year is poor and doesn't justify constant selection come rain or shine. Especially when it was the expense of a certain striker who finished our top prem scorer in 04-05 despite being loaned out in January. No answer then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 grow up man You're the expert at bypassing the issue. You still haven't revealed what you think about strikers who constantly get picked despite managing only 8 league goals from open play in one year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 grow up man You're the expert at bypassing the issue. You still haven't revealed what you think about strikers who constantly get picked despite managing only 8 league goals from open play in one year. When? He was our best available goalscorer. Taking off penalties is a joke anyway and you know it. Do you want to take of those scored with his right foot as well? He was better with that one after all. Your turn... How can you say someone who got over 20 goals in a year didn't get enough goals, particularly given the poor standard of a team he was playing in? And who has scored that many since? And when will the next time someone manages it be in your expert opinion? Seriously, you make yourself look very stupid sometimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 Not really discussing Jonas here like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 You said that nicely Liam. For a short while there was the Shearer/Bellamy/Kluivert thing. But the fact is apart from that brief moment there was no one better to be put in ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 grow up man You're the expert at bypassing the issue. You still haven't revealed what you think about strikers who constantly get picked despite managing only 8 league goals from open play in one year. When? He was our best available goalscorer. Taking off penalties is a joke anyway and you know it. Do you want to take of those scored with his right foot as well? He was better with that one after all. Your turn... How can you say someone who got over 20 goals in a year didn't get enough goals, particularly given the poor standard of a team he was playing in? And who has scored that many since? And when will the next time someone manages it be in your expert opinion? Seriously, you make yourself look very stupid sometimes poor standard? Robert, Speed, Dyer and Bellamy giving support? come on man Are you honestly saying that his performances in 2004 (0 goals away from home ffs man) warranted constant selection. He was poor in the league and the stats dont point to anything else, they really dont. They certainly warrant a rethink, or at least giving Bellamy and kluivert a try together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I know we've done it countless times but when you're discussing a striker's contribution of course you should take off penalties, unless he's winning them all himself through pace or whatnot at least. Common sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 grow up man You're the expert at bypassing the issue. You still haven't revealed what you think about strikers who constantly get picked despite managing only 8 league goals from open play in one year. When? He was our best available goalscorer. Taking off penalties is a joke anyway and you know it. Do you want to take of those scored with his right foot as well? He was better with that one after all. Your turn... How can you say someone who got over 20 goals in a year didn't get enough goals, particularly given the poor standard of a team he was playing in? And who has scored that many since? And when will the next time someone manages it be in your expert opinion? Seriously, you make yourself look very stupid sometimes poor standard? Robert, Speed, Dyer and Bellamy giving support? come on man Are you honestly saying that his performances in 2004 (0 goals away from home ffs man) warranted constant selection. He was poor in the league and the stats dont point to anything else, they really dont. They certainly warrant a rethink, or at least giving Bellamy and kluivert a try together. Like I already said, he scored 1 away goal in 2004 man, Boro away, pen. Lol seriously though, what was his injury record like that year?, any big chunks out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 grow up man You're the expert at bypassing the issue. You still haven't revealed what you think about strikers who constantly get picked despite managing only 8 league goals from open play in one year. When? He was our best available goalscorer. Taking off penalties is a joke anyway and you know it. Do you want to take of those scored with his right foot as well? He was better with that one after all. Your turn... How can you say someone who got over 20 goals in a year didn't get enough goals, particularly given the poor standard of a team he was playing in? And who has scored that many since? And when will the next time someone manages it be in your expert opinion? Seriously, you make yourself look very stupid sometimes poor standard? Robert, Speed, Dyer and Bellamy giving support? come on man Are you honestly saying that his performances in 2004 (0 goals away from home ffs man) warranted constant selection. He was poor in the league and the stats dont point to anything else, they really dont. They certainly warrant a rethink, or at least giving Bellamy and kluivert a try together. Over 20 goals man, you can cherry pick as much as you want, you're still talking shite Are you basing this whole argument on the continued fitness of Bellamy & Kluivert? Are you planning on answering the second and third questions? I'm going to bed now, because I imagine you won't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 1 or maybe 2 games out tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 grow up man You're the expert at bypassing the issue. You still haven't revealed what you think about strikers who constantly get picked despite managing only 8 league goals from open play in one year. When? He was our best available goalscorer. Taking off penalties is a joke anyway and you know it. Do you want to take of those scored with his right foot as well? He was better with that one after all. Your turn... How can you say someone who got over 20 goals in a year didn't get enough goals, particularly given the poor standard of a team he was playing in? And who has scored that many since? And when will the next time someone manages it be in your expert opinion? Seriously, you make yourself look very stupid sometimes poor standard? Robert, Speed, Dyer and Bellamy giving support? come on man Are you honestly saying that his performances in 2004 (0 goals away from home ffs man) warranted constant selection. He was poor in the league and the stats dont point to anything else, they really dont. They certainly warrant a rethink, or at least giving Bellamy and kluivert a try together. Over 20 goals man, you can cherry pick as much as you want, you're still talking s**** Are you basing this whole argument on the continued fitness of Bellamy & Kluivert? Are you planning on answering the second and third questions? I'm going to bed now, because I imagine you won't Again, I was talking about his form in the league, which again, you're not even acknowledging. I'm not gonna answer stupid questions, we all know the answer to the second, the third will surely be soon, when we have a striker who takes penalties, stays fit and plays against part-timers once every 2 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 grow up man You're the expert at bypassing the issue. You still haven't revealed what you think about strikers who constantly get picked despite managing only 8 league goals from open play in one year. When? He was our best available goalscorer. Taking off penalties is a joke anyway and you know it. Do you want to take of those scored with his right foot as well? He was better with that one after all. Your turn... How can you say someone who got over 20 goals in a year didn't get enough goals, particularly given the poor standard of a team he was playing in? And who has scored that many since? And when will the next time someone manages it be in your expert opinion? Seriously, you make yourself look very stupid sometimes poor standard? Robert, Speed, Dyer and Bellamy giving support? come on man Are you honestly saying that his performances in 2004 (0 goals away from home ffs man) warranted constant selection. He was poor in the league and the stats dont point to anything else, they really dont. They certainly warrant a rethink, or at least giving Bellamy and kluivert a try together. Over 20 goals man, you can cherry pick as much as you want, you're still talking s**** Are you basing this whole argument on the continued fitness of Bellamy & Kluivert? Are you planning on answering the second and third questions? I'm going to bed now, because I imagine you won't Again, I was talking about his form in the league, which again, you're not even acknowledging. I'm not gonna answer stupid questions, we all know the answer to the second, the third will surely be soon, when we have a striker who takes penalties, stays fit and plays against part-timers once every 2 weeks. But he just stood off players all the way through the second half though, and offered absolutely nothing going forward. Atleast when Jonas got it he ran at players and gained some yards. Duff just gives us absolutely nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 Nice one Yorkie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I have no time for Damien Duff. He's a shit footballer living off past glory. Used to be one of the best players in the Premiership and now he's shit and I don't even think he's 30. I know i'm not answering the question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest battyleespeed Posted November 23, 2008 Share Posted November 23, 2008 I thought either Kinnear or Houghton, whoever made the call, got the substition spot on. Just before Jonas was taken off he wasn't able to track back effectively anymore and completely lost the winger cutting inside. Not only was his movement tired looking but that defensive lapse was obvious case of player losing concentration because of fatique. Also Chelsea subbed Malouda and got pair of fresh legs on so we needed to counter that as well. Duff wasn't showing that much fatique so there wasn't need to sub him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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