U23s & Academy

[Dave]

One of the trailists was Lance Davids (South African international) apparently.

 

Been on trial here before, for Allardyce.

[Guest Heneage]

So it wasnt' young guys I'm surprised. Who were the others anyclues?

[Frazzle]

Dunno, I'm not an ITK or anything. 

 

Just read it here:

 

http://www.leazesdigest.com/2009/07/31/ashley-still-bluffing-with-his-nufc-in-as-latest-toon-trialist-checks-out/

 

 

 

[binnsy]

Who is Lance Davids, never heard of him, how old is he and what position does he play?  This was a youth team tournament so how old was he when Big Sam brought him over?

[Guest Heneage]

South African fullback/midfielder 24. Thank you Wiki.

[Newcastle Fan]

Yea i'm pretty sure Lance Davids is around 23-24 years old, how did he play in the U-18?

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Any news on the trailist's names?

 

Still trying to find if we've taking in any new youth players this season other then the few we already had that were promoted:

 

Andy Mogwo & co as quoted on wiki.

[Guest toonlass]

Reserves game at Croft Park against Blyth Spartans on Tuesday is in aid of the Sir Bobby Robson foundation.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

5 years from now where you do you see our current crop of youth players playing?

[Dave]

League One.

[joeyt]

Think the majority of the local lads will be playing below where we are now. Zamblera, Danquar etc will be abroad (possibly lower leagues) and Lua Lua, Vuckic will stick with us or go onto bigger and better things

[Greg]

League One.

 

Only a handful will even make it to that level, the majority of Academy players in the country don't make it as a professional footballer.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Think the majority of the local lads will be playing below where we are now. Zamblera, Danquar etc will be abroad (possibly lower leagues) and Lua Lua, Vuckic will stick with us or go onto bigger and better things

 

That's the trend, been looking over where past youths have gone and most end up in none league (Newcastle Blue Star, Blyth, Gateshead), or League 2 at a push. Only been a few youth products make it much higher, and even then those are from the 'early' years so shouldn't really count as football was different then.

 

Gazza

Waddle

Watson

Clarke

Elliott

Howey

[madras]

Think the majority of the local lads will be playing below where we are now. Zamblera, Danquar etc will be abroad (possibly lower leagues) and Lua Lua, Vuckic will stick with us or go onto bigger and better things

 

That's the trend, been looking over where past youths have gone and most end up in none league (Newcastle Blue Star, Blyth, Gateshead), or League 2 at a push. Only been a few youth products make it much higher, and even then those are from the 'early' years so shouldn't really count as football was different then.

 

Gazza

Waddle

Watson

Clarke

Elliott

Howey

basham

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Think the majority of the local lads will be playing below where we are now. Zamblera, Danquar etc will be abroad (possibly lower leagues) and Lua Lua, Vuckic will stick with us or go onto bigger and better things

 

That's the trend, been looking over where past youths have gone and most end up in none league (Newcastle Blue Star, Blyth, Gateshead), or League 2 at a push. Only been a few youth products make it much higher, and even then those are from the 'early' years so shouldn't really count as football was different then.

 

Gazza

Waddle

Watson

Clarke

Elliott

Howey

basham

 

Credit to Chris Basham he worked hard to get where he is now. Aaron Hughes Premiership, Edgar, I'll see if I can find my list, but its by no means complete yet, of where players ended up after being released. Still need to add players, and what clubs they went to, and remove players that aren't 100% Newcastle products (seem to have a few reserve players who came from other teams in there).

 

Goalkeepers
Name			Year Released	PPA	PAR	Previous Clubs
1.	Stephen Grindlay	2001				Grimsby, Dumbarton, QotS, Ayr
2.	Jon Brain		2003				Port Vale, Mac’field
3.	Adam Collin		2005				Workington, Carlisle
4.	Carl Bell		2003				Left Football?
5.	Adam Bartlett		2005				Kidd’minster, Cambridge, Hereford
Notes: Most Goalkeepers become, at best, League Two standard
Defenders
Name			Year Released	PPA	PAR	Previous Clubs
1.	Peter Ramage		2008				QPR
2.	Gary Caldwell		2004				Hibs, Celtic
3.	Stephen Caldwell	2004				Sunderland, Burnley
4.	Steve Watson		1998				Villa, Everton, WBA, Sheff Wed
5.	Steve Howey		2000				Man City, Leicester, 
6.	Robbie Elliott		1997				Bolton, Sund’land, Leeds, Hart’pool
7.	Oliver Cowie		2003				Blyth Town (Non League)
8.	Aaron Hughes		2005				Aston Villa, Fulham
9.	David Edgar		2009				Burnley
10.	Lee Norton
11.	Andy Ferrell
12.	Aaron Labonte
13.	Steven Taylor
14.	Chris Carr
15.	Ryan Hogg
16.	Ben Webster
17.	Chris Shanks
Notes: At best most Defenders become Championship level
Midfielders
Name			Year Released	PPA	PAR	Previous Clubs
1.	Tommy English		2001
2.	David Rayner		2001
3.	Stuart Green		
4.	Kris Gate		
5.	Neale McDermott	2001
6.	Brian Kerr		2001
7.	Mark Boyd		2001
8.	Keith Barr		2001
9.	Pedro Dimas		2001
10.	Bradley Orr		2001
11.	Joe Kendrick		2001
12.	Damon Robson		2001
13.	Chris Moore		2001
14.	Craig Robson		2003				Vancouver, 
15.	Ross Gardner		2001
16.	Alan O’Brien		2001
17.	Ben Webster
18.	Stephen Brennen
19.	James Beaumont
20.	Tommy English
21.	Paul Dunn
22.	Jamie McClen
23.	Martin Brittain
24.	Daryl Smillie
25.	Matthew Pattison

Attackers
Name			Year Released	PPA	PAR	Previous Clubs
1.	Lewis Guy
2.	Michael Chopra		
3.	Richard Offiong
4.	Shola Ameobi
5.	Toni Ameobi
6.	Peter Wright
7.	Kevin Gall
8.	Paul Robinson
9.	Bjarni Gudjonssen
10.	Paul Gascoigne
11.	Ben Jackson
12.	Paul Brayson
13.	Ian Milbourne
14.	James Coppinger
15.	Calvin Zola-Makongo
16.	Guy Bates
17.	Marc Walton

[binnsy]

5 years from now where you do you see our current crop of youth players playing?

 

Gateshead, if you look at Gatesheads team now 3,4,5 years ago the likes of Baxter, Cave and Gate etc were playing for our academy/reserves.

[binnsy]

Think the majority of the local lads will be playing below where we are now. Zamblera, Danquar etc will be abroad (possibly lower leagues) and Lua Lua, Vuckic will stick with us or go onto bigger and better things

 

That's the trend, been looking over where past youths have gone and most end up in none league (Newcastle Blue Star, Blyth, Gateshead), or League 2 at a push. Only been a few youth products make it much higher, and even then those are from the 'early' years so shouldn't really count as football was different then.

 

Gazza

Waddle

Watson

Clarke

Elliott

Howey

 

Alan Thompson went on to play for England, further than Clark & Elliott although didn't really hang around at NUFC for long before going to Bolton in search of 1st team football.

[binnsy]

Think the majority of the local lads will be playing below where we are now. Zamblera, Danquar etc will be abroad (possibly lower leagues) and Lua Lua, Vuckic will stick with us or go onto bigger and better things

 

That's the trend, been looking over where past youths have gone and most end up in none league (Newcastle Blue Star, Blyth,

 

 

Goalkeepers
Name			Year Released	PPA	PAR	Previous Clubs
1.	Stephen Grindlay	2001				Grimsby, Dumbarton, QotS, Ayr
2.	Jon Brain		2003				Port Vale, Macfield
3.	Adam Collin		2005				Workington, Carlisle
4.	Carl Bell		2003				Left Football?
5.	Adam Bartlett		2005				Kiddminster, Cambridge, Hereford
Notes: Most Goalkeepers become, at best, League Two standard
Defenders
Name			Year Released	PPA	PAR	Previous Clubs
1.	Peter Ramage		2008				QPR
2.	Gary Caldwell		2004				Hibs, Celtic
3.	Stephen Caldwell	2004				Sunderland, Burnley
4.	Steve Watson		1998				Villa, Everton, WBA, Sheff Wed
5.	Steve Howey		2000				Man City, Leicester, 
6.	Robbie Elliott		1997				Bolton, Sundland, Leeds, Hartpool
7.	Oliver Cowie		2003				Blyth Town (Non League)
8.	Aaron Hughes		2005				Aston Villa, Fulham
9.	David Edgar		2009				Burnley
10.	Lee Norton
11.	Andy Ferrell
12.	Aaron Labonte
13.	Steven Taylor
14.	Chris Carr
15.	Ryan Hogg
16.	Ben Webster
17.	Chris Shanks
Notes: At best most Defenders become Championship level
Midfielders
Name			Year Released	PPA	PAR	Previous Clubs
1.	Tommy English		2001
2.	David Rayner		2001
3.	Stuart Green		
4.	Kris Gate		
5.	Neale McDermott	2001
6.	Brian Kerr		2001
7.	Mark Boyd		2001
8.	Keith Barr		2001
9.	Pedro Dimas		2001
10.	Bradley Orr		2001
11.	Joe Kendrick		2001
12.	Damon Robson		2001
13.	Chris Moore		2001
14.	Craig Robson		2003				Vancouver, 
15.	Ross Gardner		2001
16.	Alan OBrien		2001
17.	Ben Webster
18.	Stephen Brennen
19.	James Beaumont
20.	Tommy English
21.	Paul Dunn
22.	Jamie McClen
23.	Martin Brittain
24.	Daryl Smillie
25.	Matthew Pattison

Attackers
Name			Year Released	PPA	PAR	Previous Clubs
1.	Lewis Guy
2.	Michael Chopra		
3.	Richard Offiong
4.	Shola Ameobi
5.	Toni Ameobi
6.	Peter Wright
7.	Kevin Gall
8.	Paul Robinson
9.	Bjarni Gudjonssen
10.	Paul Gascoigne
11.	Ben Jackson
12.	Paul Brayson
13.	Ian Milbourne
14.	James Coppinger
15.	Calvin Zola-Makongo
16.	Guy Bates
17.	Marc Walton

 

There's only about 2 players on that list i haven't seen play, some poor players on it as well!!!  Although some are down as defenders when they were midfielders, forwards who were midfielders and vice versa!  Bradley Orr was always a decent player, think he's captain of Bristol City now.

[Skirge]

I want to be like Zog says Wes

Aug 4 2009  by Lee Ryder, Evening Chronicle

 

WESLEY Ngo Baheng is hoping that he can follow in the footsteps of Charles N’Zogbia at St James’s Park – only for all the right reasons.

 

The French teenager made his way down what has become a well-trodden path back in January 2008 after joining United from Le Havre’s youth set-up, just like N’Zogbia did four years earlier in the Sir Bobby Robson era.

 

Fiery Frenchman N’Zogbia was part of the Robson legacy on Tyneside, with the flying winger once able to walk on the Tyne after a string of sizzling performances and his eye for goal, not least his solo effort in the 4-1 drubbing of Sunderland back in 2006.

 

However, it wasn’t all sweetness and light for N’Zogbia in Newcastle and the French Under-21 international left Toon under a cloud.

 

Not only was N’Zogbia furious after being called Charles Insomnia by ex-boss Joe Kinnear, a bitter punch-up at the training ground with Andy Carroll – which needed to be separated THREE times – meant that the winger had no future at Newcastle and he left in a swap deal for Ryan Taylor last January.

 

But even though Baheng has not made his full senior debut for Newcastle, he has a story to tell that is equally as intriguing.

 

Scouted during the Sam Allardyce era but signed under Kevin Keegan, Ngo Baheng picked up a horror knee injury in the Northumberland Senior Cup final in 2008.

 

While trying to impress KK he ended up stretchered off and facing a 12-month lay-off.

 

And if the old saying that a week ‘is a long time in football’, then a year must have felt like a lifetime for Baheng.

 

For when he did eventually return to the fray at Newcastle, Keegan – who appreciated Baheng’s attacking style – was gone, Chris Hughton was in caretaker charge for a second time and Joe Kinnear, the man appointed in between, was recovering in a hospital bed after a triple heart bypass operation.

 

Then by the time he was back in action again Alan Shearer had arrived to try to save the Mags.

 

Baheng told United Front: “When I was first injured in the Northumberland Senior Cup game at St James’s, I was close to the first team when Kevin was in charge.

 

“I was training with the first team on a regular basis and that made it all so frustrating for me.

 

“It was a long road but I have to thank the people who helped me through it at the club.

 

“It was a long rehab but they kept me going along with my friends and team-mates.”

 

Baheng’s main focus now is simply to pull on a black-and-white shirt at first-team level.

 

He enjoyed a taste of it during United’s pre-season friendlies and made an impact in the opener against Shamrock Rovers during the club’s mini-tour of Ireland.

 

He said: “I came to Newcastle the same route as Charles. But now time has moved on and I must just stay focused on play-ing for Newcastle United.

 

“That is the target and that is my dream.

 

“It would be an honour to play for Newcastle’s first team and show the great fans what I can do.”

 

Like the rest of the Toon fringe players, Baheng is simply eager to show what he has to offer.

 

He said: “There are a bunch of players who will be keen to show what they’ve got.

 

“It will be competitive but I hope I am ready for the challenge. I just need to stay fit and keep focused.”

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/08/04/i-want-to-be-like-zog-says-wes-72703-24305561/

[Guest Heneage]

I hope he does, he's a really nice down to earth lad.

[Skirge]

04.08.2009

Euro Stars Back For Blyth

Ranger and Vuckic included for Tuesday's second-string friendly at Croft Park

http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1742631,00.html

 

 

04.08.2009

Tommo Challenge For Toon Starlet

United coach believes Inman should be setting sights on senior call

http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1742679,00.html

[joeyt]

Squad for tonight:

 

Soderberg, Lough, Taylor, Tozer, Airey, Inman, Ferguson, McCrudden, McDermott, McLaughlin, Donaldson, LuaLua, Baheng, Ranger, Sammy Ameobi, Vuckic, Danquah, Zamblera.

 

 

[binnsy]

Squad for tonight:

 

Soderberg, Lough, Taylor, Tozer, Airey, Inman, Ferguson, McCrudden, McDermott, McLaughlin, Donaldson, LuaLua, Baheng, Ranger, Sammy Ameobi, Vuckic, Danquah, Zamblera.

 

 

 

No Tavernier?  from that squad i'd love to see us line up like this...

 

                            SODERBERG

      TAYLOR    TOZER      LOUGH      FERGUSON

 

                      INMAN      DONALDSON

 

        LUA LUA          VUKCIC        BAHENG

   

                              RANGER

that would be a excellent team but we won't play it, presume Danquah will play instead.....

[themanupstairs]

Squad for tonight:

 

Soderberg, Lough, Taylor, Tozer, Airey, Inman, Ferguson, McCrudden, McDermott, McLaughlin, Donaldson, LuaLua, Baheng, Ranger, Sammy Ameobi, Vuckic, Danquah, Zamblera.

 

 

 

No Tavernier?  from that squad i'd love to see us line up like this...

 

                            SODERBERG

      TAYLOR     TOZER      LOUGH      FERGUSON

 

                      INMAN      DONALDSON

 

         LUA LUA          VUKCIC         BAHENG

     

                               RANGER

that would be a excellent team but we won't play it, presume Danquah will play instead.....

 

No Mogwo? Fuck that 

[leazes.ender]

Yea i'm pretty sure Lance Davids is around 23-24 years old, how did he play in the U-18?

 

Seeing the pic there was no way he was one of the trialists.