NG32 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Souness is probably one of the best players I've ever seen play, so I agree with the point. However, I think Shearer was the main reason Roeder looked so good in his first season. Well, i have come to this thinking. There was a clip of Shearer stood in the dug out with Glen Roeder, must have been after his injury at the SOL when we beat them 1-4. We must have scored a goal Shearer was celebrating and Roeder held his hand up "in fuck yeah" sort of way and Shearer grabbed it. I got the feeling it was Shearer who was the boss and Roeder was his assistant. Just picked it up from the body language of the pair. I could be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phil K Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 A fact proved many times in the past. I'm sure there'll be a short term 'boost' but longer term I worry as Shearer seemed to admire Souness' style above Robson, Gullit etc. Absolutely correct. But each person should be judged on what they do, not what others have done. Your comment is a prejudgement just like those assuming he'll do great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 You'll get some great ex-players that are shocking managers, but then you'll get some great ex-players who are top class managers. Simple as really.... You cant say EVERY good player will be a shit manager- it doesnt work like that. You'll get a mixture. But then again, some managers who weren't players, or who were shit players, can make for crap managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm just pleased we'll be able to judge him on what he does rather than other people's opinions what he might do finally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm just pleased we'll be able to judge him on what he does rather than other people's opinions what he might do finally. True, just getting the Shearer era started is a big weight off our shoulders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 On the whole i'm against managers cuting their teeth in the Premier league. I'd much rather they gained lower league experience first but, putting all bias aside, Shearer is one man I feel confident can do a job at the highest level straight away. He'll know what we need on the playing side to get us to score goals. He scored goals with his feet and head so he appreciates the need for someone who can pick a pass from the centre and players who can deliver well from the flanks and dead ball situations. He can also give our defenders advice on how to neutralise the threat of strikers. Time will tell but at the moment i'm very pleased with the appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Yep, he also knows how to put partnerships together after benefitting greatly from younger, quicker legs alongside him (Bellamy, Dyer etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 He's taken one training session and people are saying there's no gurantee he'll do well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 The one thing about Shearer is his character. The man's aura precedes him, and he has a gigantic presence. He's just one of those people who were always destined for greatness. This alone might be the deciding factor that could make him a superb manager (we hope). As has been said, when these big ex-players manage their "own" teams, it seems to turn into something special. See: Klinsmann and/or Guardiola Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I'm not so sure Shearer admired Souness ahead of Robson and Gullit to be honest. Imo he just prefered Souness because he rated him more highly as a player than those two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Surely the main reason he fell out with Gullit was that he dropped him? Not that he disagreed with Shekshy Football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I always imagined he'd be a Dalglish type manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 I always imagined he'd be a Dalglish type manager. We will shapre get a fair idea of what he is about, obviously we have to take into account he only has 8 games. A true guess would be after a full season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieglory Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 The one thing about Shearer is his character. The man's aura precedes him, and he has a gigantic presence. He's just one of those people who were always destined for greatness. This alone might be the deciding factor that could make him a superb manager (we hope). As has been said, when these big ex-players manage their "own" teams, it seems to turn into something special. See: Klinsmann and/or Guardiola See Hoddle & Spurs and/or Souness & Liverpool for the flip side of that coin. Not saying that I'm not happy with Shearer being here for the rest of the season, but the fact that he's a Toon legend doesn't guarantee he'll turn us round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 The one thing about Shearer is his character. The man's aura precedes him, and he has a gigantic presence. He's just one of those people who were always destined for greatness. This alone might be the deciding factor that could make him a superb manager (we hope). As has been said, when these big ex-players manage their "own" teams, it seems to turn into something special. See: Klinsmann and/or Guardiola See Hoddle & Spurs and/or Souness & Liverpool for the flip side of that coin. Not saying that I'm not happy with Shearer being here for the rest of the season, but the fact that he's a Toon legend doesn't guarantee he'll turn us round. Neither would getting Ferguson,Wenger or Mourinho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieglory Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Very true. I have every digit crossed here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 Shearer should know from first hand experience that ruling with an iron fist alone doesn't work. 'Should' being the operative word. Whether he does is another matter. That said, I was somewhat surprised and very pleased to hear what he said today about players needing to hear how good they are etc. Seems like he does have a clue after all that players sometimes need confidence and happiness instilled in them by someone else, which the likes of Souness often didn't seem to realise. Bodes well. I'm just pleased we'll be able to judge him on what he does rather than other people's opinions what he might do finally. True, just getting the Shearer era started is a big weight off our shoulders. Yes... so long as he stays beyond the 8 games, of course. The alternative could make things even more unbearable. I'm also concerned that if he does turn out to be a bit of a disaster (see Souness), that the media will go nuclear in accusing us supporters of being fickle etc. Anyway, no point in talking about this kind of thing, just now I suppose. He's taken one training session and people are saying there's no gurantee he'll do well. You think there is? He spoke well, today - left me feeling more optimistic. Also pleased to see more sense in this thread than I expected to. Let's all hope this turns out as well as we want it to. Good luck to him - we need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericz Posted April 2, 2009 Share Posted April 2, 2009 There are definitely evidences pointing to both sides of the coin. In the end, it is really a moot point. Whatever it is, it is a positive move and we should have faith, believe in it, embrace it, be open-minded and positive about it. All these may go a long way in helping the team walk a longer, a tough path ahead. So people, embrace it : ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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