JH Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 GK Johnson CB Terry Cole RW Lamps Barry Gerrard Rooney Defoe The unnamed are the three up for grabs IMO. CB? I don't know. I just don't rate Rio anymore, he's not what he used to be. Green and Lennon for GK and RW atm. SWP should be nowhere near that first team, he just doesn't have it at international level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 SSN: Lescott and Robinson pull out, replaced by Gary Cahill and Joe Hart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 GK Johnson CB Terry Cole RW Lamps Barry Gerrard Rooney Defoe The unnamed are the three up for grabs IMO. CB? I don't know. I just don't rate Rio anymore, he's not what he used to be. Green and Lennon for GK and RW atm. SWP should be nowhere near that first team, he just doesn't have it at international level. Fucking hell. Heskey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Defoe has done well as an impact sub, why change that? Heskey is playing well and fulfilling his role, which isn't primarily to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 GK Johnson CB Terry Cole RW Lamps Barry Gerrard Rooney Defoe The unnamed are the three up for grabs IMO. CB? I don't know. I just don't rate Rio anymore, he's not what he used to be. Green and Lennon for GK and RW atm. SWP should be nowhere near that first team, he just doesn't have it at international level. f***ing hell. Heskey. Decent to lineup in particular games, but overall he wouldn't be in my first eleven. He just doesn't add as much to the game from what I've seen. Plus he doesn't score enough goals, if we're going to have Rooney in the team, I reckon we need an out-and-out goalscorer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Defoe is fine as a sub but I've already been on a rant about how important Heskey is. I can't understand how people still can't see it. On another note, I don't think Defoe has done anything more than Bent has to be included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 GK Johnson CB Terry Cole RW Lamps Barry Gerrard Rooney Defoe The unnamed are the three up for grabs IMO. CB? I don't know. I just don't rate Rio anymore, he's not what he used to be. Green and Lennon for GK and RW atm. SWP should be nowhere near that first team, he just doesn't have it at international level. f***ing hell. Heskey. Decent to lineup in particular games, but overall he wouldn't be in my first eleven. He just doesn't add as much to the game from what I've seen. Plus he doesn't score enough goals, if we're going to have Rooney in the team, I reckon we need an out-and-out goalscorer. You're kidding me. Heskey in the team makes Rooney much more of an out and out goalscorer, remind me who the top scorer in European qualifying is? He also frees up Gerrard and Lampard by holding up the ball, something that Defoe can't do and Rooney is wasted doing. Which team are the top goalscorers in European qualifying again? Heskey is absolutely essential to our Plan A. Defoe is a very good Plan B, nothing more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Defoe is fine as a sub but I've already been on a rant about how important Heskey is. I can't understand how people still can't see it. On another note, I don't think Defoe has done anything more than Bent has to be included. Heskey's role for England is so under rated,I agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Rooney isn't an out and out goalscorer? He's the top scorer in the European qualifiers, he has 9 in his list 8 internationals or some crazy shit like that. Just because he doesn't get loads for Man United doesn't mean he'll be the same in the England side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Rooney is England's best player, and the side is rightly specifically tailored to get the best out of him, and the two next best attacking players, Gerrard and Lampard. I can't understand why some people are so keen to have Jermaine fucking Defoe starting they'll sacrifice this new found cohesion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Why are people wanting to change the line-up, anyway? Even a fuckwitt like Kinnear wouldn't change his team if they'd won (is it something like 11 games?) that many on the bounce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 It's the Roma-style. But Rooney isn't as good as Totti has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 You are starting to remind me of the Spain of old, that bigged itself up after mauling their qualification groups like that meant something Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 You are starting to remind me of the Spain of old, that bigged itself up after mauling their qualification groups like that meant something It's quite a strange one actually. Personally I don't think this England team is anything special, yet we've underperformed in the past with a better group of players. Just now we have a brilliant manager who is actually picking the best team and not just a set of individuals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 You are starting to remind me of the Spain of old, that bigged itself up after mauling their qualification groups like that meant something I'd say most people are only cautiously optimistic at best actually. The last two world cups reams of people were predicting victory, we've been burnt now though. In reality we're a very good team at the moment with an exceptional manager, but I certainly wouldn't have us as anything much more than about a 1 in 8 shot to actually win the world cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 People have been predicting World Cup victory for as long as i can remember.This side,with it's best tactical manager for years,probably since Ramsey,gives us our best chance in my lifetime,since 1970. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Do you think England will win it in South-Africa? I don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Do you think England will win it in South-Africa? I don't. Spain,Brazil or us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 SSN: Lescott and Robinson pull out, replaced by Gary Cahill and Joe Hart. Good news on both counts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Thing about international competitions is that they span so little time that are more about form than real class/manager talent. I don't think Spain's *that* good, but when I look at the classic or modern powerhorses (France, Italy, Germany, Argentina...) most of them seem to be in a transitional state at best, so that gives us a shot. Still Brazil for me, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Massive lottery international tournaments. Nobody in their right mind would have predicted an Italy-France final last time, it's pretty much just about who clicks in the tournament provided you're at a decent level. Even the likes of Argentina, currently struggling big time, will have a decent shot at it if they get through. They've got the players, they just need to click. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 SSN: Lescott and Robinson pull out, replaced by Gary Cahill and Joe Hart. Good news on both counts. what a load of bollocks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 Massive lottery international tournaments. Nobody in their right mind would have predicted an Italy-France final last time, it's pretty much just about who clicks in the tournament provided you're at a decent level. Even the likes of Argentina, currently struggling big time, will have a decent shot at it if they get through. They've got the players, they just need to click. Spot on. That's kinda what makes World Cups exciting. I really hope Brazil doesn't win. Nothing against them at all, just too predictable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 The best part of any international tournaments that England compete in is simply the fact that World In Motion gets a shit load of airplay. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 The best part of any international tournaments that England compete in is simply the fact that World In Motion gets a shit load of airplay. Great tune. Back Home's a belter too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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