Guest sicko2ndbest Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? Guthrie on the wing. Have a word... Did he play on the wing on Saturday or right of a middle 3 with Cabaye pushed on I think you will find im right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 We will be going backwards if guthrie gets any where near the first team man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not a fan of Guthrie's but he can more or less replicate what Barton brings to the table. He's slightly less aggressive but how many ball winners do we need in the central area? Cabaye and Tiote are hardly shrinking violets. Put Guthrie alongside those two and he'd do a more than decent job. Personally I think we would be better off playing neither Barton or Guthrie and using Jonas in a wider position giving us a bit more pace and width. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptoon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? Guthrie on the wing. Have a word... Got to agree. Guthrie is a decent enough squad player in central midfield. Has been horrendous every time i've seen him play out of position on the wing though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGSC Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 From what i've seen from Guthrie on the right/left side of midfield, he is quite ineffective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan_Taylor Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Gosling Guthrie Marveux Ben Arfa could all potentially do his job A couple of them dare i say could do it better? Guthrie on the wing. Have a word... Did he play on the wing on Saturday or right of a middle 3 with Cabaye pushed on I think you will find im right Well done you. Did he not play on the right of a 4 all last season though? Congratulations on spotting the change for one game though. Kudos :) Still doesn't cover the fact that Barton>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Guthrie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewJerseyMag Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not a fan of Guthrie's but he can more or less replicate what Barton brings to the table. He's slightly less aggressive but how many ball winners do we need in the central area? Cabaye and Tiote are hardly shrinking violets. Put Guthrie alongside those two and he'd do a more than decent job. Personally I think we would be better off playing neither Barton or Guthrie and using Jonas in a wider position giving us a bit more pace and width. No way! Guthrie isn't half the player Barton is, plus he is injured almost always anyhow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Barton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gosling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The even ones suggesting Guthrie as even a bit-part stand-in for Joey are on crack. Guthrie needs to be shown the freaking door now that we have all these supposedly brilliant new signings (and the world-beating Gosling, which you mentioned) in our squad. As someone said, we'll be going backwards if we start going the Guthrie route. And the rest are all crocks. Great one, Ashley. If Joey goes out midfield's gonna have about as much bottle as a Sunderland one. Probably have more quality, but we need someone other than Tiote who can anchor a team, let alone rouse it from a slumber, which so far only Joey has been able to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not a fan of Guthrie's but he can more or less replicate what Barton brings to the table. He's slightly less aggressive but how many ball winners do we need in the central area? Cabaye and Tiote are hardly shrinking violets. Put Guthrie alongside those two and he'd do a more than decent job. Personally I think we would be better off playing neither Barton or Guthrie and using Jonas in a wider position giving us a bit more pace and width. Total bollocks man. Guthrie cannot do what Barton does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not a fan of Guthrie's but he can more or less replicate what Barton brings to the table. He's slightly less aggressive but how many ball winners do we need in the central area? Cabaye and Tiote are hardly shrinking violets. Put Guthrie alongside those two and he'd do a more than decent job. Personally I think we would be better off playing neither Barton or Guthrie and using Jonas in a wider position giving us a bit more pace and width. Total bollocks man. Guthrie cannot do what Barton does. He's got a sh1t haircut, as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Barton will be a big miss should he go to QPR - no doubt about it. So the assett stripping/cost cutting continues apace whilst supporters continue to be conned by those running the club. Where is all of this going to end? I'll tell you where - the club will reach Sept 1st with either no LB signed, or Wayne Bridge on loan and no striker coming in. Ashley will be quids in yet again after another window. You cannot run a football club like you do on Football Manager. Of all the sales and departures from SJP in recent months, Barton's impending release () is the last one you can shove under 'cost cutting and asset stripping' there are clearly massive problems between him and the club management. Pardew would like to ride this out (for the season at least) but he might not get the chance to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 The fact Guthrie's even bing mentioned is far worse than the possibility of us losing Barton. As the old saying goes he isn't fit to lace his boots! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I was just starting to be at ease with this transfer window and what we had going into the season. Sigh. I think Barton is a decent player who's ability level is exaggerated by many on here and also by himself. It speaks volumes that the only club that has come in for him is QPR. He's not the quickest, can't really dribble, his short passing game and composure on the ball when in the middle of the park is actually very poor. I like him as a character and as a player, but really his performances over the last year have come by playing him in a position that utilised the qualities he does have to the maximum. As much as some on here seem set on playing him there, he's NOT a good central midfielder. He's not versatile and he's not a dynamic footballer, which is why I found his agent, those on here and the media spouting off about how he will go to a top 7 team quite bizarre. That being said, take him out of the side and it leaves a gaping hole down the right hand side of a settled team. The hole he leaves is similar to the one we have at left back and the one we have upfront, frankly we can't afford to weaken the team any further. You know what you're going to get from him and that's a solid performer who is vocal on the pitch and can hold the team together. Losing him without a direct, sure-fire, like for like replacement is just yet further gambling by those at the top. We're going to be nowhere near relegation and I still remain confident we'll see 2 players coming in...but it's pretty depressing that mid-table is about the best we can expect this season. I guess it makes sense to an extent, the only way you're going to get top 6 is by spending a shitload of money and the positions 7th-17th are much as a muchness to Ashley. Aslong as he can keep us in the league why should he give a fuck as a businessman to try and invest and push us a couple of places higher. The prick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If he is true to his word, he won't entertain their offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If he is true to his word, he won't entertain their offer. He wont be travelling down there if he wasn't entertaining the offer. He'll have been told of the figures already, he's unfollowed all NUFC players on Twitter...he's going down there to complete the formalities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If he is true to his word, he won't entertain their offer. He wont be travelling down there if he wasn't entertaining the offer. He'll have been told of the figures already, he's unfollowed all NUFC players on Twitter...he's going down there to complete the formalities. Hadn't read the thread, just the thread title. Cheers. Well, this is shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not a fan of Guthrie's but he can more or less replicate what Barton brings to the table. He's slightly less aggressive but how many ball winners do we need in the central area? Cabaye and Tiote are hardly shrinking violets. Put Guthrie alongside those two and he'd do a more than decent job. Personally I think we would be better off playing neither Barton or Guthrie and using Jonas in a wider position giving us a bit more pace and width. Total bollocks man. Guthrie cannot do what Barton does. He's got a sh1t haircut, as well. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest johnson293 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 If he is true to his word, he won't entertain their offer. If that was the case, surely he wouldn't even bother travelling - he'd just let Mckay bat it away? EDIT: Sorry, just seen you'd answered a similar reply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Also, what this Sedgwick guy told. It seems very, very likely that he'll be away. Perhaps the only thing that could turn him around would be a phone call of the club saying they re-think his contract situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CheickMansour Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I was just starting to be at ease with this transfer window and what we had going into the season. Sigh. I think Barton is a decent player who's ability level is exaggerated by many on here and also by himself. It speaks volumes that the only club that has come in for him is QPR. He's not the quickest, can't really dribble, his short passing game and composure on the ball when in the middle of the park is actually very poor. I like him as a character and as a player, but really his performances over the last year have come by playing him in a position that utilised the qualities he does have to the maximum. As much as some on here seem set on playing him there, he's NOT a good central midfielder. He's not versatile and he's not a dynamic footballer, which is why I found his agent, those on here and the media spouting off about how he will go to a top 7 team quite bizarre. That being said, take him out of the side and it leaves a gaping hole down the right hand side of a settled team. The hole he leaves is similar to the one we have at left back and the one we have upfront, frankly we can't afford to weaken the team any further. You know what you're going to get from him and that's a solid performer who is vocal on the pitch and can hold the team together. Losing him without a direct, sure-fire, like for like replacement is just yet further gambling by those at the top. We're going to be nowhere near relegation and I still remain confident we'll see 2 players coming in...but it's pretty depressing that mid-table is about the best we can expect this season. I guess it makes sense to an extent, the only way you're going to get top 6 is by spending a shitload of money and the positions 7th-17th are much as a muchness to Ashley. Aslong as he can keep us in the league why should he give a f*** as a businessman to try and invest and push us a couple of places higher. The prick. Good post. Agree with every word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'm not a fan of Guthrie's but he can more or less replicate what Barton brings to the table. He's slightly less aggressive but how many ball winners do we need in the central area? Cabaye and Tiote are hardly shrinking violets. Put Guthrie alongside those two and he'd do a more than decent job. Personally I think we would be better off playing neither Barton or Guthrie and using Jonas in a wider position giving us a bit more pace and width. Total bollocks man. Guthrie cannot do what Barton does. Put in a few tackles in a tight midfield and hit a few passes and miss a few? I don't see why not. If Barton could dribble, run down the line at pace and score goals then I'd agree Guthrie couldn't do it. They are fairly similar other than temperament tbh. In a three man midfield I don't think it will make much difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest michaelfoster Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 really not that fussed about this, high wages + one good PL season + loads of baggage Ashley, man, not convincing. The one good PL season & loads of baggage are true though, hth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Also, what this Sedgwick guy told. It seems very, very likely that he'll be away. Perhaps the only thing that could turn him around would be a phone call of the club saying they re-think his contract situation. which won't happen, if QPR are matching or improving on what he's getting already (which is significant) then there is no way in hell Ashley would give him a new deal on those terms as he'd want, and thats without taking into account the fact Ashley just wants rid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Also, what this Sedgwick guy told. It seems very, very likely that he'll be away. Perhaps the only thing that could turn him around would be a phone call of the club saying they re-think his contract situation. which won't happen, if QPR are matching or improving on what he's getting already (which is significant) then there is no way in hell Ashley would give him a new deal on those terms as he'd want, and thats without taking into account the fact Ashley just wants rid Money wouldn't even be an issue here imo. The lenght of the contract - the fact of an offered contract even - much more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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