Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Do the fans let Ashley get away with it? What's the significance of an ex player having constant digs? Just don't see what good this apparently does. I can understand people wanting the fat cunt to get everything he deserves but he won't give a fuck about this tbh. The only thing it will do is stir up shit with the players left behind, players I am sure he is still in contact with and stirring it up further. who says he's helping? he's telling the truth (as he sees it and as it appears you do) there's nothing wrong with that imo. his tweets wont unsettle a team if they've got anything about them, removing the best players will. If it's not helping then whats the point? Joey Barton states the obvious, cheers Joseph, thank fuck there is someone as insightful and intelligent as you to help us morons work this out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 i simply cant muster any frustration with him for saying all that because he's absolutely right imo Naming players the way he's done goes a step too far, regardless of "how oh so right" he is. Guess some on here have never worked in a professional environment, and don't have a clue what outside interference can do to morale. My one and only concern is that these players who are still with us remain focused on the football, and not get fidgety because some c*** who's been chucked out on his arse is s*** stirring, and creating waves in the media. yeah, ive never worked in a profesional environment. his tweets wont unsettle a team if they've got anything about them, removing the best players will. Absolute rubbish. The tweets get picked up by the media, and continue to keep the club in the news for the wrong reasons!! If you don't think media can put pressure on a football club, then you can't have been around English football for that long! edit: Plus, are his tweets going to stop the best players getting sold? (I agree with you that selling your best unsettles other players, that's obvious) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I still like the bloke, but I would find it amusing if we dominated QPR, beat them 3-0 and he got played off the park by Cabaye and Tiote. He's a good player and quite interesting on twitter IMO, but he's nowhere near as great as he seems to think he is. Getting a bit tedious I must say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two fucks about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p5/20110820/14/3777575269.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/17/article-0-027BBC23000005DC-133_468x340.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p5/20110820/14/3777575269.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/17/article-0-027BBC23000005DC-133_468x340.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Strange that it's now 'stating the obvious' when as little as two days ago so many were still deluding themselves that he was totally wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Exactly although he could have had what he wanted if he signed when he had a chance to, whether you think his delaying was for his or our benefit is open to debate. Personally i think he thought he would get a deal regardless this summer and a bit of competition from other bigger clubs would help him(nice work Willie Mc). As it happened he managed to piss off the twats running us instead and ended up at QPR. Nobodies fault but his own imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Strange that it's now 'stating the obvious' when as little as two days ago so many were still deluding themselves that he was totally wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 i simply cant muster any frustration with him for saying all that because he's absolutely right imo Naming players the way he's done goes a step too far, regardless of "how oh so right" he is. Guess some on here have never worked in a professional environment, and don't have a clue what outside interference can do to morale. My one and only concern is that these players who are still with us remain focused on the football, and not get fidgety because some c*** who's been chucked out on his arse is s*** stirring, and creating waves in the media. yeah, ive never worked in a profesional environment. his tweets wont unsettle a team if they've got anything about them, removing the best players will. Absolute rubbish. The tweets get picked up by the media, and continue to keep the club in the news for the wrong reasons!! If you don't think media can put pressure on a football club, then you can't have been around English football for that long! edit: Plus, are his tweets going to stop the best players getting sold? (I agree with you that selling your best unsettles other players, that's obvious) i've worked in a professional environment and i've been around english football for ages, any other daft presumptions you'd like to base a point on? since when has media pressure made any difference to mike ashley's football club? i'm not even sure what point you're arguing now. what 'media pressure' is going to come as a result of bartons tweets other than pressure to stop selling our best players (for incoming transfer fees and so we dont have to re-negotiate contracts) as barton is highlighting? i can't agree that his tweets will unsettle anyone in our squad, every single one of them should be aware they have a price on their head and that if they've got a year left on a big contract it's not gonna be easy to get another one. why would they have to read joey barton's tweets to know that? i'm not applauding barton for it but i'm certainly not condemning it. getting into a position where you deny someone the right to speak the truth in order to allow us to keep running the club on a shoestring budget without players getting unsettled is a completely backwards position, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 http://d.yimg.com/i/ng/sp/p5/20110820/14/3777575269.jpg http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9374/oookkk.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Amusing that it's those who call him a 'cunt', think we're better off without him, 'won't miss him one bit', that are the ones quickest to comment on him. I'd imagine they're still following this 'cunt' on Twitter, aye? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 i simply cant muster any frustration with him for saying all that because he's absolutely right imo Naming players the way he's done goes a step too far, regardless of "how oh so right" he is. Guess some on here have never worked in a professional environment, and don't have a clue what outside interference can do to morale. My one and only concern is that these players who are still with us remain focused on the football, and not get fidgety because some c*** who's been chucked out on his arse is s*** stirring, and creating waves in the media. yeah, ive never worked in a profesional environment. and ignore the rest of my post? should I presume you would be alright with Tiote, Coloccini, Krul and Jonas getting unsettled, and not playing for the shirt while still here? Thats up to them as professionals. But Barton is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go If he was bothered about the club and fans he wouldn't be having digs about the new players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go If he was bothered about the club and fans he wouldn't be having digs about the new players How's that, man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ovesbar Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I always liked Barton when he played for us, but tweets like " I missed games last yr, how many did u win? #JustSaying" and the criticism of the signing of Santon is just pathetic. Move on and focus on your new club with the ambition you have been looking for.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Amusing that it's those who call him a 'cunt', think we're better off without him, 'won't miss him one bit', that are the ones quickest to comment on him. I'd imagine they're still following this 'cunt' on Twitter, aye? I've called him a cunt but never said once we were better off without him or that we won't miss him one bit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 The transfer window is closed. If any of the squad are more 'unsettled' now than they were when several of our best players were being sold then I worry for their mental state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Amusing that it's those who call him a 'c***', think we're better off without him, 'won't miss him one bit', that are the ones quickest to comment on him. I'd imagine they're still following this 'c***' on Twitter, aye? I've called him a c*** but never said once we were better off without him or that we won't miss him one bit Had a quick look through and cant see that said at all today..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 I have never understood the "good on him, at least someone isn't letting Ashley get away with it" stance. What help does it do? Nothing, frankly. Still important that someone does it, even if its Joey Barton. For every forumboarder who knows everything there is 15 grandma`s out there who might be interested in what Joey has to say. Why does everything have to have an impact for it to be a valid thing to say. No it wont change anything, but its a valid and accurate concern and hopefully it will wind Dekka and Ashley up. Good enough for me. Why is it important that it's said? It's not and he doesn't give two f***s about the "Geordie Nation", he is just bitter he didn't get what he wanted. Cause it puts pressure on the board, as little as it may seem. As far as being a Geordie, I think you are wrong. I think Barton genuinely likes the club and the fans etc, and hes sorry he had to go If he was bothered about the club and fans he wouldn't be having digs about the new players How's that, man? What's to not understand? Are you happy he is having digs at our new players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rainforest Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 He is right about Santon too. I am hopeful that he recaptures his form of a few years back, and he is still young. But the reason we got him ( imo) is that he has been something of a stalled prospect - it could go both ways really. Still support the lad mind. Would rather have Enrique though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 2, 2011 Share Posted September 2, 2011 Can someone compile his comments about the new players? Can remember him commenting on Cabaye when he was still here but I've missed the rest. Thanks in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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