Joey Barton (now retired)

[BottledDog]

"hunky dory" "if everyone's ducks had been in a line"

 

I love him.

 

Me too, in a very similar vein as to how I loved Bellamy (and to a degree Robert when he was castigated in the press for speaking out and saying nothing actually wrong). Just a very passionate bloke.

 

[TRon]

Sounds like Barton was waiting for a last minute contract offer from us judging by his interview.

 

He must be fucking dense then. He had a good offer, knocked it back and has since been taking potshots at his employers in various ways. Not the best way to get a contract from them is it?

 

Everybody makes mistakes, though, right?

 

Even IF he had a good contract offer from us in Jan and decided to wait, it would have only been fair from the club to offer him another (the same one as in Jan) one considering how outstanding he's been at times last season.

 

There was no need for Joey to be so confrontational with the people who pay his wages. All the rubbish his agent was spouting off about top four clubs wanting him was not only bollocks it was in bad taste. You don't talk like that if you are wanting to stay at a club.

[Frazzle]

The crux of it for me is quite simply this:

 

Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote.

 

And now two of the six remain

 

Thankfully its the two best. 

[SimplyAnth]

Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from three years ago.

 

This. People keep talking about how poor he was when he joined, doesn't change the fact he was one of our best players today.

 

Guess it's personal opinion. Call me an idiot but I honestly don't think he was one of our best players, and definitely don't think he was worth a contract of 60p/w+.

 

Kind of like Nolan in one respect, so many fans classed him as one of our best players.

[Sifu]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

[Guest]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

[David28]

As much as I like him, I won't feel sorry for him. He'll earn more money in a year than I will in my whole life (certainly, miracles can always happen).

 

Still, absolutely gutted to see him leave.

[Mr Logic]

Certainly think we'll miss him in the short term.

 

Shame he didn't quickly respond to the comment re 'artists needing a director' that that would have been the manager, the way the interview ended you got the impression the interviewer was implying Ashley.

[TRon]

Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from three years ago.

 

This. People keep talking about how poor he was when he joined, doesn't change the fact he was one of our best players today.

 

Guess it's personal opinion. Call me an idiot but I honestly don't think he was one of our best players, and definitely don't think he was worth a contract of 60p/w+.

 

Kind of like Nolan in one respect, so many fans classed him as one of our best players.

 

Spot on. I feel these players have used the club to boost their profiles which has given them delusions of grandeur beyond their worth. Landing at QPR and West Ham might have brought them back down to earth with a bump.

[David28]

Certainly think we'll miss him in the short term.

 

Shame he didn't quickly respond to the comment re 'artists needing a director' that that would have been the manager, the way the interview ended you got the impression the interviewer was implying Ashley.

 

Ashley or Llambias. Most certainly both of them.

 

Pardew did everything in his power to keep Joey from what we've heard. Sadly, his power isn't exactly powerfull.

[Cajun]

The crux of it for me is quite simply this:

 

Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote.

 

And now two of the six remain

 

It's certainly a big gamble on Cabaye, Ba and Pieters.

 

I don't think we will replace Barton tbh.

 

Could go either way.

[JH]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

[Sifu]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

Definitely. I'm disappointed in him in this aspect.

[Guest]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Or he could have taken the 3-years we offered him then in the first place.

[SimplyAnth]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Do players get compensation and that if they suffer a big injury in those circumstances? I might have just made that up, not sure.

[David28]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Or he could have taken the 3-years we offered him then in the first place.

 

As I've said before, everyone makes mistakes.

 

If he really was offered 3 years on decent wages he'll be close to shooting himself in his great-haircut-head now.

[David28]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Do players get compensation and that if they suffer a big injury in those circumstances? I might have just made that up, not sure.

 

Don't think so.

 

Just ask Hargreaves. If he ends up without a contract, he'll be some kind of Canadian TV expert, probably.

[Cajun]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Do players get compensation and that if they suffer a big injury in those circumstances? I might have just made that up, not sure.

 

Yeah, not sure how it's worked out but I had personal injury insurance so I am pretty sure these players will have something

[JH]

I doubt he was even offered that length of contract tbh.

 

The least they could have done is negotiate. We've shown in the Charlton saga that we aren't the best to deal with.

[Frazzle]

The crux of it for me is quite simply this:

 

Over the last season or two, for me our top performers have been Coloccini, Carroll, Nolan, Barton, Enrique and Tiote.

 

And now two of the six remain

 

It's certainly a big gamble on Cabaye, Ba and Pieters.

 

I don't think we will replace Barton tbh.

 

Could go either way.

 

Whilst there is evidence pointing to the fact that Barton would do well this year, there's no guarantee.  Same with Nolan. 

[Guest]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Or he could have taken the 3-years we offered him then in the first place.

 

As I've said before, everyone makes mistakes.

 

If he really was offered 3 years on decent wages he'll be close to shooting himself in his great-haircut-head now.

 

Which might explain why he's so gutted at this. I'd shoot McKay if I was him.

[David28]

I doubt he was even offered that length of contract tbh.

 

The least they could have done is negotiate. We've shown in the Charlton saga that we aren't the best to deal with.

 

Think the same. He wouldn't have turned it down in January if the length would have been ok.

 

After all, we found out that Owen was offered a 1 year extension only as well by Llambias the time KK was in charge. No wonder he didn't take it.

[David28]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14650167.stm

 

Looks so unhappy in this interview it's untrue.

 

 

It's pretty much clear as day that he really doesn't want to be there.

 

Could have stayed where he was adored for another year, proved to the top clubs that last year wasn't a one-off in terms of fitness, form, discipline, etc. and at least got a move to a mid-table club.

 

And then got injured and end up out of a job. Good plan

 

Or he could have taken the 3-years we offered him then in the first place.

 

As I've said before, everyone makes mistakes.

 

If he really was offered 3 years on decent wages he'll be close to shooting himself in his great-haircut-head now.

 

Which might explain why he's so gutted at this. I'd shoot McKay if I was him.

 

Obviously could be the case. But as I've said before today, we'll probably never find out the truth on that one. We'll probably never know what contract he's been offered in January.

 

After all, he's only been a NUFC player and the show must (and will) go on.

[Guest ObiChrisKenobi]

Geordie Nation. 

[tmonkey]

Not really sure about the continued references to his first couple of years here. Yes they were s***, but that's way in the past. Last season he was one of our best players, and was actually voted the best in the Chronicle's unofficial player of the year award. He made a decent start to this season too. That's what we're losing, not the Barton from two/three years ago.

 

But using your same line of thought, couldn't one argue that that was last season, i.e. in a virtually different team with different players, and hence there are no guarantees that Barton would be as good this season and beyond?