mozy Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Doesn't justify his wages - get rid. We don't have enough players to get rid. Other wise I'd be all for him f***ing off. Reduces the wage bill and he's a liability. I'd rather have Butt in there and we've still got Guthrie to come back too. Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Doesn't justify his wages - get rid. We don't have enough players to get rid. Other wise I'd be all for him f***ing off. Reduces the wage bill and he's a liability. I'd rather have Butt in there and we've still got Guthrie to come back too. We need more than 3 senior midfielders for the championship season + cup games tbh. Nolan, Guthrie, Barton, Butt, Geremi. We could easily let Smith go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dover Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Doesn't justify his wages - get rid. We don't have enough players to get rid. Other wise I'd be all for him f***ing off. Reduces the wage bill and he's a liability. I'd rather have Butt in there and we've still got Guthrie to come back too. We need more than 3 senior midfielders for the championship season + cup games tbh. Nolan, Guthrie, Barton, Butt, Geremi. We could easily let Smith go. Fair point, however If were selling one then the order of sale should be Butt, Geremi, Nolan, Smith, Gutherie, Barton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 £4m would be a bargain for such a limited player who does a very average job that is glossed over by "spectacular" lunging and supposed work rate/effort/passion. none of which prevents him from going missing in a vital area of the pitch. He's good enough to play in a Championship dominating midfield, but that midfield will struggle when there are similarly limited players around him. Nolan, Butt, Guthrie, Geremi, even Barton, there's a shocking lack of legs in there, very little creativity (in fact only Barton provides an ounce of it), and very, very few goals. Someone needs to go, and out of those six, I'd want at least two from Nolan, Butt, Geremi and Smith to be moved on and replaced with younger, more mobile central midfielders who won't be gasping for air after 60 minutes. That way, we won't have a squad with four/five central midfielders all with the same limitations. £4m could easily be well spent. I'd be willing to bet that there are at least a dozen obtainable youngsters playing in the reserves of Premiership sides who'd provide the same things as Smith at this level - those things being an average touch, simple passing, and the ability to lunge. It's really not much if you look beyond reputation. And even if they money were to go straight to Ashley's back pocket, we'd still be better off by getting rid of his wages and letting the other central midfielders earn theirs. No brainer for me, although in an ideal world it'd be Nolan and Butt first out of the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 If we got offered £4M for Smith I'd be stunned if Ashley took it. In fact even if someone offered £20M for Smith, I'd be stunned if Ashley took it. He knows how much Smith is detested by the fans, and to him, that is worth more than cold hard cash. That is priceless. And he is fucking loving it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 If we got offered £4M for Smith I'd be stunned if Ashley took it. In fact even if someone offered £20M for Smith, I'd be stunned if Ashley took it. He knows how much Smith is detested by the fans, and to him, that is worth more than cold hard cash. That is priceless. And he is f***ing loving it. Absoloute nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 If we got offered £4M for Smith I'd be stunned if Ashley took it. In fact even if someone offered £20M for Smith, I'd be stunned if Ashley took it. He knows how much Smith is detested by the fans, and to him, that is worth more than cold hard cash. That is priceless. And he is f***ing loving it. Truly daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 If we got offered £4M for Smith I'd be stunned if Ashley took it. In fact even if someone offered £20M for Smith, I'd be stunned if Ashley took it. He knows how much Smith is detested by the fans, and to him, that is worth more than cold hard cash. That is priceless. And he is f***ing loving it. Absoloute nonsense. You're just sickened that someone round here actually knows how to be a WUM. Learn from the best, child. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Smith does his job well. Breaks up play well, has decent distribution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Wonder if Smith will get a goal this season???! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Smith is the only defensive midfielder we have that can actually put any pressure on the opposition. Nolan & Butt can barely run, let alone keep up with passes. Butt showed that endlessly last season, we have had a go at both for being invisible during games now. Yet now because smith is over the top he's completely useless to us & a liability. Compared to the others he a godsend ffs. Atleast you can moan at him for tackling badly, the other dont get anywhere near the ball to tackle in the first place. Id much rather smith was playing. Smith's pretty much the same. Well i didnt get the opportunity to watch him against Sheff Wed but i havent seen that. At one point against reading he made a rash tackle that everyone was having a go at him for, while ignoring the fact that hed just cleared the ball himself from our goal line & then rushed out on his own to put the opposition under pressure while the rest of our side stood around looking clueless. So i think people underestimate what he may be giving us & focusing instead on his bad tackling. From what ive seen, hes of far more use than Nolan or Butt would be defensively in midfield. Check my posts on here for goodness know how long with regards to Smith. He might be able to get away with it in this league but when he was in the top league his lack of legs and mobility meant he was chasing shadows for most of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Wow, really close poll Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 The thing that Smith has looked much better with this season is his positioning on the football pitch and the general understanding of his role. He has played like the shield that he should be and is rarely found behind the opposition attack, as he was for much of his earlier time here. I think it is forgotten that the holding role was completely alien to him until a few years ago, so it will take time for him to perfect the way he plays. Most of all he looks like he has found his position, and isn't the lost soul we saw under Allardyce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Still can't tackle though. Still far too rash. Still gives loads of free kicks away in dangerous positions. He only looks better because the opposition are poorer. He might do a decent job for the time being but he's no better than he was when he joined us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzaA2 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 The thing that Smith has looked much better with this season is his positioning on the football pitch and the general understanding of his role. He has played like the shield that he should be and is rarely found behind the opposition attack, as he was for much of his earlier time here. I think it is forgotten that the holding role was completely alien to him until a few years ago, so it will take time for him to perfect the way he plays. Most of all he looks like he has found his position, and isn't the lost soul we saw under Allardyce. To be fair I think it took him a year here to realise he's no longer a Manchester United and England player and the injury slowed him down and knocked him for 6. I expect him to be back to his best this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 He does dive into too many rash tackles, but I would say that he wins most of them. He tackles tough and hard, which helps get the fans and rest of the team pumped up, helping us with our momentum on the pitch. Added to the fact that he is our current captain, and has done a pretty good job so far, I would say he should be more valuable to us than Geremi, Butt, Barton and Nolan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Butt is the club captain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainhaircut Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Butt is the club captain. Can't believed you managed to type that without being physically sick. What a fuckin disgrace that is. I honestly think I'd break Nicky Butt's legs if I saw him in the street. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinotheprehistoricgeordie Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 Doesn't justify his wages - get rid. We don't have enough players to get rid. Other wise I'd be all for him f***ing off. Reduces the wage bill and he's a liability. I'd rather have Butt in there and we've still got Guthrie to come back too. We need more than 3 senior midfielders for the championship season + cup games tbh. Nolan, Guthrie, Barton, Butt, Geremi. We could easily let Smith go. Ok I forgot about Geremi and Butt. Has Geremi had any pre-season at all? If we have to get rid get rid of Geremi Smith has done a good job in the last two games despite what some people are saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaststar Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 Butt is the club captain. Can't believed you managed to type that without being physically sick. What a fuckin disgrace that is. I honestly think I'd break Nicky Butt's legs if I saw him in the street. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iliketoonarmy Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Looking at the statistic, it's amazing that even Cacapa scored more than Smith in less than 20+ games ;( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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